Thanks Bob for going over the history of it. Perhaps noting down the changetset ID's and noting it on the PEI wiki page Since the origional upload was done on probably a few changesets.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2689623 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/marse020/edits #2600075 <http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2600075> September 23, 2009 21:57 Kings County Civic Addresses ( http://www.gov.pe.ca/civicaddress/download/index.php3) #2691911 <http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2691911> September 30, 2009 22:18 Prince County Civic Addresses ( http://www.gov.pe.ca/civicaddress/download/index.php3) So it looks like these were the changesets. My guess is that knowone is using that account since? I also think that it would be best to remove the data, and record the changeset ID of the removal. So then a revert could happen (from that changeset) if we find out soon. Since importing them again at a later date is no problem. I had had a quick look at a few areas, and saw that in fact the nodes are on-top of eachother. .. however the address is different. ie http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/514707713 node is housenumber 365 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/514707016 node is housenumber 300 So all that needs to be done is a manual move over to one side. As that source may be tied to the actual lot number, whereas there could be multiple houses on that same lot, (lots get split from a big farm but that database might not have changed). .. so that node is still in the center of the lot.. not the actual house. However, the point is that this import was done under the 'assumption' that it was OK to import. ... Perhaps the angle could be to request that the Government of PEI to contribute the data to GeoBase and/or to Naturural Resources Canada - CanVec? This way, its working on a door that is already partially open. PEI already knows that they are a bit behind other provinces (Nova Scotia has block facing address data available) http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/nrn/status.html I also like Franks idea of hosting tiles rendered, so an example can be shown. (and Daniel just mentioned that the address range data will be available) Cheers, Sam P.S. the yahoo imagery of the Island looks great. And i see that more of the Confederation Trail was done! Looks great. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Robert Shand <b...@shand.org.uk> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I've been looking in the PEI address details lately. > > In July 2009 Peter Rukavina contacted the provincial Government to enquire > about the copyright status of the PEI civic address data and to see if they > would be willing to open the data up for inclusion into OSM. Unfortunately > shortly after, and before a response was received there was a government > reshuffle, and nothing further happened. > > In October 2009 Michel Arsenault contacted Peter regarding the civic > address data. Michel tried contacting the government on several occasions > via both email and telephone but unfortunately received no response. Having > not heard back from them Michel prepared the data, tagged the source for > easy removal (just in case anyone contacted him about the copyright status) > and uploaded the data. Michel is now out of the country and effectively > un-contactable until 2011. > > Peter floated the idea to Michel about removing the current data and once > again making more official lines of enquiry within government. Michel > acknowledged that this was fine, and that he'd considered this with the > addition of suitable tags. > > Finally I was investigating dupes ( using this > http://www.opengeodata.org/2010/02/08/screencast-on-how-to-remove-duplicate-node-in-openstreetmap/) > in PEI > > > http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/dupe_nodes/?zoom=9&lat=46.51269&lon=-63.22347&layers=BT > > It appears that the majority of the dupe nodes in PEI are the civic address > data that has been imported at least twice for Kings County. > > Taking all of the above into account, I propose to the community that > > 1) Plenty of cool screenshots of the current OSM map are taken showing the > civic address data > 2) The current civic address data is removed due to i) the Dupe nodes and > ii) the current unknown copyright status > 3) We approach the government again for suitable licensing terms showing > them before/after map shots taken from 1. Trying to prove to them the value > of opening the data. > > What does everyone else think? > > Cheers > > Bob > > On 2010-01-28, at 8:13 AM, Robert Shand wrote: > > There was some talk locally about the civic address import. I'm not sure > of the exact status on the copyright. I'll dig through my emails to find out > where it got left. > > On 2010-01-26, at 11:47 PM, Sam Vekemans wrote: > > So I was informed today that PEI has already imported the address details. > Im not sure about the copyright on it. I did message that user, so to find > out more details. > ie. to contact the government and just ask. > > > http://www.gov.pe.ca/civicaddress/download/index.php3 > > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.16879&lon=-63.35656&zoom=17&layers=B000FTFT > > I remember Richard asking about contacts in PEI, was it regarding this? > > Hopefully the road data will be made available to import. > > According to geobase status, the block face addressing for this province is > not yet available. Is it planned for the near future? > http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/nrn/status.html > > Cheers, > Sam > > Twitter: @Acrosscanada > Blog: http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans > Skype: samvekemans > OpenStreetMap IRC: http://irc.openstreetmap.org > @Acrosscanadatrails > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > > >
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