Bonsoir tout le monde! 

Sam, you are too fast - You did the announcement before I had completed the 
final check on the data!  

However, the sample files including addressing are now available from the wiki 
at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec#Sample_Datasets

Sample files are
011D12 - Halifax city area, NS - include addressing
021L14 - Québec city area (Ancienne-Laurette), QC 
022C07 - Bic Park area, QC 
031D08 - Peterborough city area, ON  - include addressing
082H04 - Waterton Park area, AL  - include addressing

I have added Halifax and Peterborough.  I also replace Waterton Park area with 
a new file that includes addressing.

These are sample, not the final product.  I am waiting on comments from the 
community to finish the Canvec conversion programs and start conversion 
process.  I would like to know if the Karlsruhe schema is Ok.  It sometime 
needs editing around access ramps  buildings. Only local mappers can do that.  
Does the distance between adjacent interpolation lines is Ok? - where addresses 
show up. 

Cheers,

Daniel

Note for Sam: The 2000 nodes limit is respected in the product. About the 
coastline that shows up as natural=water instead of natural=coastline,  I will 
check tomorrow if there is a problem in the translation table. 


-----Original Message-----
From: samvekem...@gmail.com [mailto:samvekem...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sam 
Vekemans
Sent: 1 juin 2010 20:46
To: Bégin, Daniel; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Canvec sample - Halifax Nova Scotia

Hi Daniel,

Great work!
I have contacted User:steve in Halifax via the OSM-web system.
(there are so many Steve's so i dont remember the email address :) I informed 
him that this sample data is available.

I have updated the Halifax Wiki, as im also working on the area.
... when there are local area mappers IMO they should get 1st dibs ...
as they are the once's who did the most work.

According to the stats;
There are 70 authors in the area with user:SteveInHalifax with 68% of the 
edits.  and the next closest is 2 users at 7% each and the rest at 2% and 
under. with minor edits.

There are 81,155 objects in the sample file.  it's a nice real small area to 
work with.

For this kind of thing, working as a mapping party would be great for
this.  Then it all can be done in 1 sitting.   For the other areas
that are less populated, the same courtasy should be met.   Contacting
local area mappers to see if they are interesed, does take some time.
So ... IMO  contacting just the users who are in the top should be done & 
letting them work on it, is probably best.

The new address:interpolation looks good,  and it appears that on the ground, 
its just needed to fill in the rest of it,  (as mappers are adding more detail).

About the coastline  (once i hear back from Steve) i'll give him a few
days)  then i will copy in the natural=water.

What i plan on doing is this method:
step 1:  download all of the OSM data in a new layer that covers this sample 
area Step 2:  Copy the multi-polygon from the sample area and select the 
relation.
step 2:  check the size of it, and see that it is less than 2,000 nodes.  (if 
it is larger, paste it in a new layer to work with) step 3:  paste (the part of 
it your working on) into the 'Data Layer 1'
step 4:  start at one and of it,  and find the natural=coastline step 5:  
adding nodes to smooth out the coastline & move them to line up with the 
natural=water polygon.
step 6:  use the Toporama WMS layer (change resolution)  so to use as a 
backdrop background.  the canvec sample should line up EXACTLY as Toporama.
step 7:  slide the costline nodes over to line up with the natural=water 
multi-polygon step 8:  select both intersecting nodes step 9:  Tools / Merge 
Nodes  or  Ctrl+M (on windows keyboard) ... then add & merge nodes all the way 
around it.

Upload changes, so then it doesnt get lost.  (make sure your onw the 'Data 
Layer 1' layer as selected, otherwise it would upload the entire sample are 
file.... and you dont want that)

....

So for the rest of the features, what this means is that the Top local area 
contributor will be able ot make the decision themselves on just
how they want to proceed.   Do they want to start in 1 corner and just
copy in & merge intersecting nodes of the data.  Or do they want to remove the 
way that was perviously done and add this version in.

In this case, for downtown Halifax,  it would be better to just slide the OSM 
data over a little (using the sample dataset & toporama) as a
background.   then just copy in the address:interpolation ways. as
they go along.
...

Building nodes:
initially we agreed that adding the building=yes  as nodes should NOT be 
included.
Does anyone have a reason why these cant be added?

The reason why, is that in some cases, we could actually use the house node as 
part of the end=node  for the address.
I think that this information would be fine to have.
---- Should these be included?  are they already included?

...
Pond Example:
In OSM, Purcells Pond, is actually better quality than the canvec data.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/iWVKyusTUvMDDanQ_sEhHQ?feat=directlink
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/58113551

So we would want to make sure that this pond is kept.

Lake example:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/8GATHRZsnQgWcOUWAwYaaQ?feat=directlink
For this one, (as it's said in the picture)  it's better to just move it over & 
add nodes to make it better.

Islands/rock/place:
(as in the link above)  for the 2 pieces of land like an island 'or a
rock that sticks out'   if it's known locally with a name, that could
be added.  I add "place=island" when i see it.   Perhaps this can be
up to the discression of the local mapper?



...  NTS tiles:
And finally,  i would like to recommend actually uploading the big rectangle to 
OSM  & indicating that you (the local area mapper) are
currently working on it.   So then it becomes known to other mappers,
to just hold off on mapping.  Or have a mapping meetup ASAP.   Then
once the user is done loading the data, the rectangle can be removed.

When i was adding the Victoria landuse=residential polygon, i did it in stages, 
as there were lots of other mappers doing work all over.
... so IMO.  If i hosted a mapping party, then at least a few people would show 
up, so it isn't just 1 person.  & it would all be done in 1 sitting.


Ok that's all for now :-)

Again, great work!

Cheers,
Sam

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