Hello all,
As a former resident of Saskatchewan, I vote for imports - done by a
select few people who know how to do it well. I've been slowly bringing
Moose Jaw on the map with help from Bing imagery, but I will never be
able to accurately map all of the roads in Saskatchewan. There are over
200,000 km of roads. Most are un-mapped in OSM and will likely remain
that way - not to mention the thousands of lakes in Northern
Saskatchewan that aren't there.
I would much rather update a map, then try to trace the entire country.
Cheers,
Teresa
(on a different note, I now live in Germany, where imports aren't even
spoken of. Lots of stuff left to map here though, even with a really
active community.)
On 04/15/2012 07:57 PM, Daniel Begin wrote:
Bonjour,
I know that I'm not totally unbiased !-) but as it is an important question,
I'll add my two cents as OSM contributor...
Bulk import - Canvec for instance - is helpful to fill white areas on OSM
map. Not doing twice what is already available and focus on updating, or
adding features, that are not available from other sources. Using it as a
canvas to add upon.
I have fun updating hydrography, vegetation, parks, roads and land uses in
Sherbrooke, Sept-Îles and Rimouski. I would not have done the map from
scratch.
Best regards,
Daniel
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Allison [mailto:andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com]
Sent: April-15-12 12:19
To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?
On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 11:09 -0400, Richard Weait wrote:
Dear All,
Let's talk about it again. How do we feel about the bulk copying of
information from a permitted source into OpenStreetMap in Canada?
To be clear, I'm not suggesting that we discuss whether external data
sources are good or not. External data sources are good. I'm
suggesting that we review how we best make use of those external
sources.
You go first. :-)
Best regards,
Richard
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From what I see there are some conflicting arguments here.
1 Building a community of mappers to add features to the map. Ideally
local.
2 Canada is a huge country. I doubt that there are that many people
willing to commit to mapping every nook. I'm sure the amount of No
Trespassing signs itself would prevent it.
3 OSM is promoting itself as a "competitor" to google.
4 I would suspect most mappers are not aware of the license change
coming and the resulting impact.
Given the size of Canada, and the few mappers we have. I my self
could
not and probably would not have never walked / driven on every road,
trail, river, lake forest etc without some else doing an import first
which I myself used a base to improve OSM.
I don't see any possible way to have a map without an import to use
as
a base.
To counter my own points, Yes, you will find some people who see a
great white spot as a challenge. But looking at the changes made locally
I would think most people would rather tweak an existing road or park.
Andrew
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