Well that kind of settles it then. If the city of Ottawa says lowercase, then it should be lowercase. It's an interesting legislative difference between Quebec and Ontario that I didn't know about.
I've always been a little uneasy with having the whole "rue Laurier" in the name tag and it always made more sense to me if the scheme were something closer to name = Laurier, street_type = rue, etc though that runs into other problems in its own right and the current scheme is probably best and the problem solved by better parsing/searching at the application level. Anyway, that's a disucssion for the tagging list and not this one. Cheers, Charles On 09/26/2016 10:47 PM, Kevin Farrugia wrote: > The Ontario Geographic Names Board is only responsible for naming > unincorporated places and natural features. > > Street names are under the jurisdiction of the municipalities in > Ontario, so in the case of Ottawa (a single tier municipality) the > City decides what the proper format is. If the City decides that it > will display rue, ave, etc. as lowercase, then that's the proper way, > regardless of what Quebec's language authority says or the Académie > française says. The Ottawa data shows the street type being lowercase > as do the street signs, so I would say that's pretty definitive of the > street's proper name. > > -Kevin Farrugia > kevinfarru...@gmail.com <mailto:kevinfarru...@gmail.com> > > 2016-09-26 22:29 GMT-04:00 Charles Basenga Kiyanda > <perso...@charleskiyanda.com <mailto:perso...@charleskiyanda.com>>: > > Juste. La commission de toponymie indique aussi que l'inscription > > Rue Laurier Street > > serait incorrected, mais la justification est un article de la charte > Québécoise de la langue française qui ne s'applique évidemment pas en > Ontario. > > Ceci dit, une note intéressante est dans le document de la > commission de > toponymie: > > "On ne doit en aucun cas conclure que l’affichage autorisé d’une forme > odonymique autre que le nom officiel accorde implicitement un statut > officiel ou officieux à cette autre forme" > > Des fois, les municipalités font des erreurs d'affichage. > J'imagine que > l'Ontario a une règle semblable. Ceci dit, peut-être qu'il faudrait > demander au Ontario Geographic Names Board. Ça semble être l'organisme > qui ressemble le plus à la Commission de Toponymie au Québec. > > > https://dr6j45jk9xcmk.cloudfront.net/documents/4011/gnb-frenchnames-stel02-207467.pdf > > <https://dr6j45jk9xcmk.cloudfront.net/documents/4011/gnb-frenchnames-stel02-207467.pdf> > > Cheers, > > Charles > > On 09/26/2016 10:16 PM, Gordon Dewis wrote: > > And according to the document, the mandate of la Commission de > > toponymie the guide in question only has a mandate for the > province of > > Quebec (" > > La Commission de toponymie, quant à elle, a pour mandat d’effectuer > > l’inventaire des noms de lieux */sur l’ensemble du territoire > > québécois/*, de les normaliser, de les of cialiser et de les > > diffuser.”. (emphases added) > > > > The standard for the City of Ottawa appears to be different. > > > > —G > > > >> On Sep 26, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Loïc Haméon <hame...@gmail.com > <mailto:hame...@gmail.com> > >> <mailto:hame...@gmail.com <mailto:hame...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > >> > >> Bonne trouvaille Pierre! > >> > >> > >> For our English-speaking colleagues who might find it wearisome to > >> work through the French language info, I will cite the specific > >> street-names guide > >> > > (http://www.toponymie.gouv.qc.ca/ct/pdf/guideaffichageodonymique.pdf?ts=0.9319020490929337 > > <http://www.toponymie.gouv.qc.ca/ct/pdf/guideaffichageodonymique.pdf?ts=0.9319020490929337>): > >> "Sur une plaque de rue ou un panneau de signalisation, l'élément > >> générique débute par la particule de position". > >> > >> Loïc > >> > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-ca mailing list > > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca> > >
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