On 21 April 2011 13:50, TimSC <mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk> wrote: > Contrary to Robert's view, I don't think FOI can be used to get the > information directly, as the FOI response is still copyright.
I never said FOI will get you data that you're automatically free to re-use, only that it may be a way to obtain a copy of the definitive statement. (They could still refuse an FOI request on the grounds that the information is already "reasonably accessible" since you can inspect it in person at the council offices.) What FOI definitely doesn't do is give you automatic permission to re-use the information. At least with the Definitive Statement, we know OS don't claim any IP, so it's just down to getting permission from the council. (The Re-Use of Public Sector Information Regulations probably have something helpful to say here, but I've never looked at them in detail, and I think they allow for charges to be imposed for re-use.) The councils I've approached for permission to make use of Definitive Statements generally didn't seem to understand the desire to re-use the information, as opposed to wanting to produce facsimile copies, and hence they've initially been rather confused by my request. One sent me their standard set of changes for reproduction, which were broken down by usage and numbers of copies! Others were more worried that OSM might be seen as an official source of information and were wanting an explicit disclaimer added. The existence of the Open Government License [1] might make things easier, as you could ask for permission to use the information under this. However, while that license says it's ODbL compatible, it may not be compatible with the new OSM Contributor Terms, so be careful. Previously I've resorted to having to explain what OSM is, what I want to add (path statuses and reference numbers) and how we need to make sure there aren't any IP claims on the information so we can give the maps away for free. (So essentially asking for a PD license for the information, in a way that hopefully they'll understand.) Robert. [1] http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/ -- Robert Whittaker _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
