On 22 April 2012 18:34, Peter Rounce <pe...@rounce.me.uk> wrote: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines_Consultation > Achadwick's RoW table section > Byway Open to All Traffic column > motor_vehicle tag row > > I believe this should be 'yes' instead of '~'.
Wouldn't that just be a restatement of the inherited value? IMO, the table's B-O-A-T/motor_vehicle cell has the right suggestion, namely "leave it blank on objects in the database, because it's already implied by the vehicle=yes". Leaving motor_vehicle=* unstated on an OSM object means that data consumers should use whatever's explicitly set on on the vehicle=* tag for motor_vehicle access to that object. This is the way OSM access tag inheritance works normally, and in this specific case yields the value "yes" for motor vehicles. > from.. > http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Presets/EnglandWalesRightsOfWay > > <!-- > Rationale: the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984, section 15(9)(c) > states that a BOAT is "[...] a highway over which the public have a > right of way [access=yes] for vehicular and all other kinds of > traffic > but which is used by the public mainly for the purpose for which > footpaths and bridleways are used [access=designated]". Bicycles > were > probably using bridleways commonly by 1984, so they are designated. > --> In other words, motor vehicles, and indeed any kind of vehicle including the pony-and-trap, have a legally enshrined right of way in the relevant legislation. They are not *specifically* named by mode in law though, so they don't get the =designated. The dodgy argument in the comment and in the table is the one in favour of =designated for bicycles. I'd love some feedback on that; perhaps it should be no greater a degree of official access than that for bridleways (bicycle=yes). However, BOATs are generally better built for pedal cycles than are bridleways, and council signage and websites favour lighter vehicle usage over heavier for BOATs. Dunno if that, and the legal-historical argument, is really enough to deserve bicycle=designated for BOATs though. Criticism welcome, I'm still happy to maintain the presets in line with any new page which emerges. -- Andrew Chadwick _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb