There are no such signs on the road, it is just the A50. I travel along it 
every fortnight.

I would agree that we change the tags to something else, such as official_name 
or similar. I am happy to volunteer.

In the satnav senario long names such as this just confuse when the user does 
not see any on the ground confirmation.

I did briefly discuss this with Andy on IRC and the other issue is the 
insertion of soft-hyphens into the names so Hatton becomes Hat-ton. Not sure 
why, is he trying to make a satnav pronounce each syllable?

Phil (trigpoint)

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On 20/02/2013 10:09 co...@thespillers.org.uk wrote:

An internet search for "Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton Bypass" gives a good number of 
results from official sources, including parliament and highways.gov.uk

The A650 Bingley Bypass/throughpass near me was recently given a name "Sir Fred 
Hoyle Way" and name signs at all the slip roads, so I added this to OSM. I take 
it there are no name signs for Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton Bypass?

Colin in Bingley




----- Original Message -----

From: "Chris Hill" <o...@raggedred.net>


To:"John Baker" <rovas...@hotmail.com>, <talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>

Cc:

Sent:Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:26:44 +0000

Subject:Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)


How did the mapper get this info? What licence is it under? FoI for example is 
copyright and so still needs to be released under a suitable licence. AFAIK 
local authorities are responsible for naming roads not the DfT.

Cheers Chris


John Baker <rovas...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I had a response.

Apparently these are "official" Department of Transport road names.

Now I don't know as this differs to what is on the ground what should be done 
about this.

"Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton Bypass", etc  don't as far I I know appear on the 
ground however I think the some record should appear in OSM. I am worried about 
the trend in this case of placing them as the "name" of the road as what 
reference point would people use for these.

Any thoughts?

John


From: rovas...@hotmail.com
To: li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:48:53 +0000
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)


The user looks like a troll. None of his/her/bot changesets have any comments. 
And they bounce all over the world

I think he deleted the original roads on the 21 jan 2013 as the history in OSM 
says they are new roads.

Can someone look at reverting them all.

I sent the user this PM.


"What are you doing with your edits here?:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14728720
You appear to have deleted major roads A50 and replaced them with strange 
names. Where are you getting your information.
Your changesets have no notes in them explaining what you have done.
Can you explain what you are doing before we revert the changes and look at 
getting you banned.
Cheers,
John"






> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:11:53 +0000
> From: li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk
> To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)
>
> Recently various sections along the A50 between Derby and Stoke have
> grown names, for example here:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/202232245/history
>
> I've driven along that section of road many times, and I don't believe
> I've seen a name on any of the new sections.
>
> According to Musical Chairs, there are genuinely no names:
>
> http://ris.dev.openstreetmaporg/oslmusicalchairs/map?zoom=15&lat=52.87983&lon=-1.66551&layers=B0TT&view_mode=pseudorandom
>
> Some similar roads in Derbyshire do have official names, such as the A52
> "Brian Clough Way" between Derby and Nottingham, or well-used unoffical
> ones such as the A61 which locals regularly used to refer to as just the
> "Dronfield Bypass", but I've never heard of ones for the A50 being used.
>
> I'm planning to remove names that I can't find evidence for, but thought
> that I'd better check to make sure that I'm not missing anything
> obvious. Do these names have any basis in reality? "Fos­ton Hat­ton
> Hilton Bypass**" sounds like something that might have been written on a
> planning application, but I've never seen it used anywhere.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>
> ** Some of the given names (such as "Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton Bypass") are
> further complicated by having soft hyphens (hex AD) inserted between
> syllables, which results in the rendering of hyphens in some places but
> not others.
>
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