Purely a personal preference, but I like to keep ref for thing which (generally) can be determined on a ground survey. I also like to keep separate genuine administrative references (such as the PRoW ones prow_ref, or minor roads admin_ref) separate from exposed system keys such as the edubase one.
For Food Hygiene (FHRS) data the equivalent internal identifier has converged on fhrs:id, but this was is in part because a number of other items of data from the Food Hygiene scheme have also been added within OSM. So I dont think this establishes any precedent for whether one has ref:supplier or supplier:ref or supplier_ref. Consistency would be nice but is not essential If adding an edubase identifier, I'd also appreciate it if a FHRS one can be added too. These are certainly invariant, only changing when the premises change ownership. (I'm not sure what applies when school catering is outsourced, or if a school acquires academy status. I must say I like the various suggestions for better micromapping of schools: this means that there is plenty to do even in well mapped areas. One thing I've always wanted to map, but have never noticed suitable tags, are the hard-surfaced school playgrounds. Clearly, using the existing leisure=playground is a poor idea as it changes the meaning of existing mapped objects; and also many primary schools will have a proper playground too. Jerry On 6 January 2016 at 12:42, Stuart Reynolds < stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk> wrote: > Hi Jez, > > I was pondering that myself as I added the Edubase numbers to the schools > that I have added and/or modified. I had two thoughts: one, we could just > write a piece of free text such as “UK Edubase” in front of the ref; two, > which is more elegant although involving non-standard tags, is that we tag > it as ref:uk_edubase=* (or similar). > > Regards, > Stuart > > > > On 6 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Jez Nicholson <jez.nichol...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On the ref=*. Is there any convention for indicating that the ref is > Edubase? I've tagged Brighton Montessori with ref=133348 ...but how would > an interested party know that they would be able to find more details on > Edubase > http://www.education.gov.uk/edubase/establishment/summary.xhtml?urn=133348 ? > > > I agree that where an object is clearly 'owned' by an > authority/company/etc. that it is *the* 'ref'. e.g. postbox numbers > > Regards, > Jez > > On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 at 17:05 Stuart Reynolds < > stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk> wrote: > >> I’m thinking that while we are reviewing the schools, it would be a good >> idea to add the Edubase reference into a Ref tag for each school boundary >> polygon, to make it easier to track in future. Is that reference stable >> enough? >> If we think that it is a good idea, perhaps we could make it part of an >> agreed “do minimum” for this project. For example: >> >> >> - draw and tag the boundary polygon with a minimum of >> - amenity=school >> - name=* >> - ref=* >> - add entrances >> - at least one entrance=main >> - barrier=gate where appropriate - I would have thought most >> schools will have gates >> - others entrances where appropriate >> - then optionally, but preferably, draw the school buildings and tag >> building=school. >> >> >> I know we don’t want to be prescriptive, but it would certainly help >> people (like myself) who haven't participated in projects before ’t there >> was a (readily achievable) level of expectation as to what involvement in >> the project meant. >> >> Personally I have been adding in the buildings, but I haven’t been >> worrying (for now) about playing fields and the like - I’ll go back and >> revisit those if I have time. But there are a surprising number of missing >> schools so I have been looking to get those in first. >> >> Cheers >> Stuart >> >> >> >> >> On 3 Jan 2016, at 21:54, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Some great ideas and tools already shared and only January 3rd! >> >> This made me think I should set up a wiki page but I have been beaten to >> it. I've expanded on the page to add links to all the resources being >> discussed here. Page at: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Projects >> >> *Rob* >> >> p.s. Big thank you to our wiki system admins who have now added the >> VisualEditor to the wiki. This makes it much easier to edit the wiki so no >> excuses for not keeping the pages up to date :-) >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > >
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