I don’t think we should be mapping things as parishes then adding an extra tag 
to say “this isn’t a parish”. It isn’t an administrative area so shouldn’t have 
an administrative boundary. 

 

At best you could perhaps use something like boundary=unparished_area (no admin 
level needed, though I suspect people might add 10 so they can extract the full 
set by admin_level) to keep it separate from the admin and political boundaries.

 

Ed

 

From: Colin Smale [mailto:colin.sm...@xs4all.nl] 
Sent: 20 August 2016 13:34
To: Talk-GB
Subject: [Talk-GB] Admin boundaries for unparished areas - how to handle?

 

Hi everyone,

There have been some discussions in the past couple of weeks about unparished 
areas, i.e. areas in England which are not part of any Civil Parish. Civil 
Parishes are given an administrative boundary relation with admin_level=10 to 
represent their entity as an administrative area. But the unparished areas are 
not, because by definition they are not an administrative entity.

In the East Midlands Alex Kemp has been adding relations for these unparished 
areas, only distinguishable from Civil Parish relations by means of the value 
of the "designation" tag. This is contrary to our normal practice and feels 
counter-intuitive - why add an object to OSM which by definition does not exist?

To an extent I can understand his rationale. Without these areas there are 
holes left in the coverage at admin_level=10, and often these areas can be 
correlated to places or former administrative entities, giving more-or-less 
obvious candidates for names in many cases. Doing this is alleged to improve 
the behaviour of Nominatim, which sometimes struggles with the complex 
structures in the UK compared to many other countries. However they are NOT 
administrative entities, and to tag them as such would be wrong. Words like 
"tagging incorrectly for the renderer" come to mind.

So, ahow *should* they be tagged? What should be done with these unparished 
areas? Should the existing relations be reverted? Retagged to something else? 
Should we document this and encourage other admin boundary maintainers like me 
to replicate the pattern across the whole country?

Best regards,

Colin

 

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