On 06/02/2017 11:18, Colin Smale wrote:
On 2017-02-06 09:57, Dave F wrote:
On 05/02/2017 11:33, Colin Smale wrote:
Any paths that no longer follow the official route (as per the
DM/DS) should not be tagged as PROW and probably as
access=permissive unless they go across otherwise public land. The
official route is still a public right of way, it's just no longer
usable as such.
We should be mapping what's on the ground, as PROW signs & stiles
indicate, even if that doesn't correspond with the definitive map.
They should be tagged to correspond with the signs status.
Not sure I agree with this - the "on the ground" principle can be
taken too far. The real principle is "objective verifiability" - so
two independent "mappers" would come to the same conclusion. That
doesn't always imply that things are actually visible on site, only
that there is an agreed "single point of truth". In my book that
single point of truth would be the Definitive Map and Definitive
Statement, and NOT the signs.
To be honest, I think just applying a bit of common sense is the thing
to do here. I normally "map what's on the ground" but it's pretty
common to find PRoW signs pointing in odd directions, often where some
local scally has decided to have a play with the sign. You can usually
figure out where it's supposed to go though, usually from signage along
the way. Similarly many people in a particular area can point to "the
footpath that officially goes through someone's house" or "the footpath
that officially goes through a sewage farm". Usually these are just an
error (FSVO error) on whatever map they occur on (for all the reasons
already discussed).
Adding an source explicit source for "designation" if it's not
on-the-ground signage does make sense to me though, if only to avoid the
problems that we had with people "helpfully" filling in names from OS
Locator (even when a split-second of thought would have suggested that
those names might not be corrent due to obvious spelling errors etc.).
Of course, not all "obviously wrong" paths are wrong, though - like
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/53.02259/-1.45416 which is a
footpath through a (former) pub.
Cheers,
Andy
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