The government document on Shared Spaces shows that they can take many
forms, one of which is a Home Zone. The "High Street" type is still a
street intended for through traffic, but with certain characteristics
that emphasis the shared use, such as no kerbs or planters forming
chicanes. As such I think it would be better to model "shared space" as
an attribute of a highway, rather than a distinct type of highway in its
own right. It may still be a Primary or Trunk, despite the fact that a
(short) section may be constructed as a shared space.
So "shared_space=yes" would be my suggestion at the moment.
//colin
On 2017-10-01 15:47, Adam Snape wrote:
> Hi Colin,
>
> I agree entirely (though note that the two share many of those features so I
> can see where the argument comes from).
>
> If a shared space is not a living street how should it be tagged?
>
> Adam
>
> On 1 October 2017 at 14:29, Colin Smale <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
> It depends if you want to have a uniform basis for "living_street" across the
> world (well, Europe at least). The concept is well known and understood in
> continental Europe, and basically implies driving at walking pace, no
> separate pavements, no parking except in marked spaces, and all road users
> (including pedestrians!) have equal priority. Such streets are always
> residential in character.
>
> The UK implementation of this concept is known as a Home Zone [1].
>
> Shared space schemes (see [2]) are something different, aimed at town centre
> environments more than housing estates.
>
> So please DO NOT consider expanding living_street to include these shared
> spaces.
>
> //colin
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_zone [1]
>
> [2] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/shared-space [2]
>
> On 2017-10-01 15:12, Adam Snape wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Over the past couple of years Fishergate, the high street in Preston, and
> some surrounding streets have been redeveloped and these highways are now
> designated as 'shared space' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_space [3]
>
> Following redeveleopment these were mapped as "highway=living_street".
> Earlier this year fellow mapper 'lakedistrict' left a note saying that this
> seemed incorrect as this wasn't a residential scheme, I agreed and changed
> the roads to unclassified highways (+ 1 tertiary), adding traffic calming,
> surface and access tags as appropriate. These roads have recently been
> changed back to highway-=living_street by another mapper 'Pete Owens'
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52072635 [4]
>
> To move things forward I would like others' opinions about how we should map
> such shared space schemes Are we happy to broaden the definition of
> living_street to include them or are they better mapped as ordinary streets
> with additional tags? Another potential option which I toyed with was mapping
> them as highway=pedestrian, adding access tags (bicycles are permitted, motor
> vehicle access varies across the area from 24/7 thoroughfares, to time
> conditional/destination/psv only access).
>
> I'll draw lakedistrict and Pete Owens' attentions to this email so that they
> can contribute to the discussion.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Adam (ACS1986)
>
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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_zone
[2] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/shared-space
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_space
[4] https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52072635
[5] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
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