I agree with the idea that living_street isn't appropriate for the town centre roads identified here. I did notice that New Road in Brighton (mentioned in the shared space Wikipedia article) has also been changed to living_street by Pete Owens, although he has added access tags as well.
East Street in Horsham is another (sort of) example of a shared space and has been tagged with the pedestrian/access tags method by lakedistrict. In fact, the OSM wiki example of highway=pedestrian with access tags gets pretty close to what I think of as a shared space, although there are some differences in the priorities that are implied. So I'd be OK with any of highway=* plus access tags; shared_space=yes; traffic_calming=shared_space; or maybe even go for duck tagging them as highway=shared_space? Regards, Matt On 2 October 2017 at 12:35, Adam Snape <adam.c.sn...@gmail.com> wrote: > The photo of Exhibition Rd on Wikipedia makes it look deserted. I guess it > is sensible to photograph a new road layout at a quiet time. I actually > walked along it not so long ago when visiting a museum and it certainly > seemed to still be used by quite a lot of motor traffic. Not that I think > traffic volume should necessarily determine tagging, but examples such as > this, the primary roads in Poynton, anda couple of thoroughfares in > Preston, do rather weaken the comparison to Home Zones or woonerven. There > traffic would typically be very light, very slow and almost entirely for > access. The more I look at the above examples, the more I am convinced that > the presence of shared use design doesn't make these thoroughfares > comparable to living_streets > > Adam > > On 2 October 2017 at 08:56, Paul Berry <pmberry2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> One of the most significant shared space street schemes in the country >> (at least, the one that got the most publicity) is Exhibition Road. Here's >> part of it: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34401602 and it's mapped as >> living street even though it is not residential. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhibition_Road >> >> Should it be changed also? >> >> Regards, >> *Paul* >> >> On 1 October 2017 at 23:17, Colin Smale <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl> wrote: >> >>> And here's a road that wants to be a shared space but isn't there yet... >>> >>> >>> https://www.facebook.com/NHnieuws/videos/1627424217288914/ >>> >>> The goal of reducing the traffic speed has been achieved, apparently. >>> >>> >>> On 2017-10-01 20:16, Richard Mann wrote: >>> >>> The classic shared space scheme in Haren: >>> >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/53.17312/6.60310 >>> >>> has no tags that I can see. >>> >>> I'd go for something like shared_space=yes for the moment. It's a >>> "special" type of traffic calming. >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Colin Smale <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Just like in the UK, the councils here make it up as they go along; a >>>> "shared space" has no special legal status, unlike a "woonerf". >>>> >>>> A general principle which has proved its worth is that to make things >>>> safer, you remove the safety features. Like white lines and kerbs. Everyone >>>> moans a bit, but in the mean time you slow down and watch out just that >>>> little bit more... Hence shared spaces, an apparent free-for-all that works >>>> well. >>>> >>>> On 2017-10-01 18:57, Andy Townsend wrote: >>>> >>>> Not an answer, but a suggestion where there might be a bit more info... >>>> >>>> The Netherlands forum https://forum.openstreetmap.or >>>> g/viewforum.php?id=12 might be worth a read, since the shared space >>>> concept was pioneered there; https://forum.openstreetmap.or >>>> g/viewtopic.php?id=54843 is directly about "shared_space" but a search >>>> for "woonerf" (aka "home zone") gets a whole bunch more hits. >>>> >>>> Best Regards, >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talk-GB mailing list >>>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talk-GB mailing list >>>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-GB mailing list >>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-GB mailing list >>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > >
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