Please, please don't use public_transport=platform unless you're
actually mapping an actual, physical, raised object, similar to railway
platforms.
'platform' has been misappropriated from the physical railway=platform
by those who developed the PT schema to mean an arbitrary area of
pavement that's somewhere, roughly near where a bus stops. In OSM we map
*physical* objects only.
It has now been regressed one stage further, being superfluously added
to highway=bus_stop nodes. So much of the PT schema is just duplicating
valid, existing data which leads to confusion & errors. It is a waste of
time & effort.
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if you're adding the bus stop & your source is naptan how can
naptan:verified=no?
DaveF
On 02/07/2019 11:06, Ed Loach wrote:
David wrote:
Given that few people like maintenance work, if you can't map all
the
stops from first principles, it is very unlikely that imported ones will
get maintained. Retaining the NaPTAN tagging is important in
allowing
any later remerge of the updated NaPTAN data.
I've been regularly updating local bus route relations (all now upgraded to PT
schema v2) in Tendring [1], Colchester [1] and Maldon [2] areas of Essex. This
involves more maintenance than just the bus stops (which for Essex were
imported some years ago). I've written a program to help me with this,
comparing the opendata with the OSM data so I can work out what needs updating.
Occasionally I encounter a bus stop used by a bus route which wasn't imported
previously. In these cases I add the stop from NaPTAN (based on their latitude
and longitude) and add the tags:
highway=bus_stop
public_transport=platform
source=naptan
naptan:verified=no
name=(NaPTAN name)
naptan:AtcoCode=(whatever)
naptan:NaptanCode=(whatever)
If the bus stop type is not MKD I add
naptan:BusStopType=(bus stop type)
and if the status is not "act" I add
naptan:Status=(status)
This last one is very rare as I think it is only once that I've found a deleted
bus stop still part of a bus route (the road had been diverted and new stops
installed - the old stop was on what is now a cycle path).
Another problem with NaPTAN stops, which applies to non-OSM
users as
well is that they have virtual stops in Hail and Ride areas. Routers
seem to only like people boarding at those place, so, in my case, can
take me about 7 minutes out of my way against the direction of
travel,
so tell me I have missed a bus that could be easily caught.
I'll agree with this. I've been adding them at the NaPTAN location as described
above if they aren't already in, but these are occasionally up cul-de-sacs
(usually at the start or end of the route).
Ed
[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tendring(Essex)/Bus_Routes
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maldon(Essex_District)/Bus_Routes
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