Exactamundo! So, how do we decide? It would be overkill to come back to the
list for every single case, but equally, this is a change that affects
current and future features.....or am I the only one who is bothered by
this?

On Wed, 6 Nov 2019, 13:27 Paul Berry, <pmberry2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Continuing with the Hotel Chocolat example, it could well be the case that
> most are tagged with shop=confectionery because that was the nearest-fit
> tag that was suggested when each was initially mapped. If the more precise
> tag of shop=chocolate is now available we should make adjustments so that
> iD suggests this as an "upgrade" the next time someone is making an edit in
> or around one of them. Some of their shops offer a cafe/restaurant service
> as well, which should be suggested as a second tier of tags.
>
> Yours chocolatey,
> *Paul*
>
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 10:14, Jez Nicholson <jez.nichol...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> AFAIK 'The Range' has not got an entry. You can enter it in the Tag Text
>> field with/without 'gb' in the Country Code on https://nsi.guide
>>
>> To me, the big question is: how do we adequately consult the community so
>> that we feel that the GB entries are appropriate?
>>
>> Depending on github/dev abilities individuals can either create their own
>> fork/pull request. We also have an OSMUK fork that group work could be done
>> on. Or evidence could be added to
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Retail_chains_in_the_United_Kingdom and
>> Talk-GB can be consulted...a number of things are possible. But ultimately,
>> I would like "the community" to feel that the changes are ours.
>>
>> There are a number of minor decisions involved, e.g. is Hotel Chocolat
>> a shop=confectionery or the newer shop=chocolate. Overpass Turbo says 50
>> the former, 13 the latter. Retail_chains_in_the_United_Kingdom
>> says shop=confectionery so that is what the NSI says.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 7:38 PM Gareth L <o...@live.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Curious as to what is selected for branches of The Range. That was
>>> recently highlighted as being tricky to categorise.
>>>
>>> Gareth
>>>
>>> > On 6 Nov 2019, at 07:51, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) <
>>> robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 08:24, Jez Nicholson <jez.nichol...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> I was wondering how iD (and Vespucci) decides what to offer as brands
>>> when I create a new feature, or when it suggests something like "Ibis looks
>>> like a brand with incomplete tags". The answer is the
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Name_Suggestion_Index (NSI) ...now
>>> detailed on a wiki page that I created.
>>> >>
>>> >> The NSI is a github repository, so updates and editions can be
>>> suggested. This can be done via your own fork or on the OSMUK fork. I'm not
>>> sure what will work best for us yet.
>>> >
>>> > I stumbled across the NSI myself a couple of months ago, while looking
>>> > to add brand tags to shops in my local area though iD. I've been
>>> > collecting a list of missing UK brands (or at least ones that iD
>>> > didn't suggest) and also some potential errors (e.g. where it's
>>> > assumed all shops of a certain brand have a specific shop tag, when in
>>> > reality there can be some variation in the types of outlets). What I
>>> > haven't looked into yet is the mechanics of how to suggest
>>> > adding/correcting entries and what other info is needed for each one.
>>> > (Submitting github issues and pull requests for each individual brand
>>> > seems like a lot of effort on the face of it -- but maybe that's what
>>> > you need to do.)
>>> >
>>> > In case anyone is interested in adding these, or providing details of
>>> > how to do it, here's the list of missing brands that I've collected so
>>> > far (some may have been added since I started collecting):
>>> >
>>> >  Animal (Clothes)
>>> >  Barnado's (charity)
>>> >  Bill's (retaurant)
>>> >  Bon Marché (clothes)
>>> >  Byron (restaurant/burgers)
>>> >  Café Rouge (restaurant)
>>> >  Card Factory (cards)
>>> >  Fred Olsen Travel (travel_agent)
>>> >  Hughes (electrical goods)
>>> >  Johnsons (dry_cleaning)
>>> >  Jones the Bootmaker (shoes)
>>> >  Mr. Shoes (shoes)
>>> >  Muffin Break (Cafe)
>>> >  Scrivens (optician)
>>> >  Timpson (key-cutting / shoe_repair)
>>> >  The Perfume Shop (perfumery)
>>> >  Topman / Topshop (clothes)
>>> >  TUI (travel_agency)
>>> >  William H Brown (estate_agent)
>>> >  YMCA (charity shop)
>>> >  Yours (clothes)
>>> >
>>> > And here are the one I think there are problems with:
>>> >
>>> >  Greggs (allow amenity=cafe or shop=bakery or both)
>>> >  Clintons (should recognise shop=cards as well as shop=gift when
>>> > suggesting 'upgrades' in iD)
>>> >
>>> > Best wishes,
>>> >
>>> > Robert.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Robert Whittaker
>>> >
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