Given the obvious flaws in the data, I'm actually quite surprised how
good it is at spotting unmapped service roads in London - including
those which pass beneath buildings. Most of them probably deserve a
survey though.

Russ

On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 15:04, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jerry.
>
> I'd also subsequently discovered the data dump but had not yet got around to 
> looking at it. What are you using here to view and work with the data? Is 
> QGIS and 6GB RAM sufficient?
>
> I would be interested in Warwickshire if you can extract that.
>
> And yes, we probably are not expecting much for the UK given how well we 
> already have most roads mapped. It's a shame it only shows missing roads as I 
> suspect it has better geometry of some rural roads in poorly mapped areas 
> than us - I still find jagged roads with source=npe.
>
> Nevertheless, the AI stuff is an interesting one to keep an eye on. If 
> improvements can be made and additional datasets incorporated, it could 
> become a significant aid in the future. For example I wonder if it could be 
> good at building detections when combined with other data such as LiDAR 
> height data. There is also the prospect of using AI to help find solar panels.
>
> Best regards,
> Rob
>
>
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 14:07, SK53 <sk53....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps more useful is that one can download the UK data as a geopackage 
>> from 
>> https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/wiki/Available-Countries.
>>  It's 147Mb zipped in a tar which unpacked is around 400Mb.
>>
>> I've had a very quick look and notice quite a few concentrations of features 
>> which are obviously tractor lines in farmland. See this area around Colston 
>> Bassett 
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Colston_basset_fb_rapid.png.  
>> Apparently such false positives can be marked as such in the editor which 
>> ought to improve detections next time round. My suspicion is that things 
>> which are actually roads are mainly driveways to outlying houses & farms or 
>> farm tracks. Using OS OpenRoads is more likely to help find significant 
>> missing adopted roads.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> I can potentially provide extracts for individual LAs if people want them, 
>> send me an email. I personally found it easier to look at the data as a 
>> whole rather than scanning around in the editor.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 22:09, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I just spotted that Facebook have pushed an update to their map with AI 
>>> project:
>>>
>>> "For our final release of 2019, we have released 84 new countries for our 
>>> AI road data with new coverage in the remainder of Europe, Asia, and 
>>> Oceania! AI roads are now available nearly globally."
>>> Source: 
>>> https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/blob/master/WHATSNEW.md
>>>
>>> For those who don't know what MapWithAI is check out https://mapwith.ai
>>>
>>> And to try it out in their RapID version of the iD editor: 
>>> https://mapwith.ai/rapid#background=Bing&disable_features=boundaries&map=18.60/53.40625/-2.13801
>>>
>>> Just roads at the moment and not that easy to find a suggestion that is 
>>> worth adding (at least near me where roads are well mapped) but this does 
>>> demonstrate what is possible. Let us know if you have a good or bad 
>>> experience with this.
>>>
>>> Would be great to see this extended to buildings but we may have to wait 
>>> for Microsoft for that.
>>>
>>> P.S. A happy new year to all!
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Rob
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