On 22/07/2020 23:02, Dave Love wrote:
On Wed, 2020-07-15 at 10:18 +0100, Tony OSM wrote:

For a building or similar I presently use

HE_ref=1072653
heritage=2
heritage:operator= Historic England
historic= heritage
listed_status=Grade II
name= War Memorial Gateway to Astley Park
barrier=gate
start_date= mid C19
website=
https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1072653

I forgot to comment before:  From a maintenance point of view, is it a
good idea to add redundant data (that I assume are implied by HE_ref)?

The HE_Ref is probably the important one, as that links back to the original data source. But the rest of it seems a reasonable way of tagging listed buildings.

Also:

On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 14:10 +0100, Tony OSM wrote:
Yes, maintenance when things change is an issue.

I've looked at taginfo listed_status and found several variations
for
Scheduled Monument, Grade(value)

I plan to do several things if there are no objections

1. update wiki listed_status to show the capitalised values
Scheduled
Monument, Protected Wreck Site,
Park and Garden, Battlefield, World Heritage Site, Certificate of
Immunity, Building Preservation Notice

What happens to, say, a park/garden with a grade, then?

Parks and Gardens are, typically, not listed buildings and don't have grades in the same way.

Straying a bit from the topic a bit, perhaps it's worth adding
something about adding listed things that may not be obvious to
everyone.  If you find in the HE listings a building (say) you don't
already know and want to tag it, presumably it's a problem that you
can't just match the position on their OS maps to OSM.  I assume you
need to take the listed grid reference and just use that (which you
probably can't with curtilages etc. or a monument like an ancient
ditch, though that's likely on NLS 1:10000).  The wiki could use info
about converting grid references too, unless I missed it.

The re-usable data for listed buildings only contains a point, so that's the only useful geographic data for them even if the map on the HE website shows the curtilage. Some of the data for monuments includes a polygon, but not all, and you can't tell from the website which does and which doesn't - you have to download and convert the shapefiles.

Mark

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