Hi Rodrigo Before you create a vote on the wiki, can I suggest a different method? "OSM UK" has started using Loomio for discussions and votes, and it generally seems to work out well. I think Loomio is designed for the purpose of making good decisions together: https://www.loomio.org/openstreetmap-uk/
I'm sorry, I don't wish to confuse you with tools and differing opinions... Cheers Dan Op ma 28 sep. 2020 om 15:31 schreef Rodrigo Díez Villamuera <rodr...@rodrigodiez.io>: > > Thanks all of you for your messages. > > As a new joiner, I could not ask for more than other members engaging in such > a passionate way :) > > It's fair to say that there is no clear consensus of whether the proposal, in > its current form, is acceptable or not. So, I am going to create a voting > section on the wiki page to help us visualise what people think > > However, before I do that I would like to reply to a point that was made by > Andy > > Andy, > > I'm not actually convinced that's a problem - as others have said, web > browsers are perfectly capable of converting "www.mypub.com" into either > "https://www.mypub.com"or ""http://www.mypub.com"as appropriate, so this > doesn't really add any value. "Letting the browser sort it out" is a great > approach as it can deal with now/near future things such as removal TLS 1.0 > and 1.1 support as well. > > This is not true based on my experience. I just tested on the latest version > of Chrome and Firefox and, if the URL scheme is not specified, they both open > the the URL using http even if https is also available for it. > > You may have experienced a behaviour by which the user gets redirected from > the http url to the https one but that depends on the configuration of the > site server which is not always set-up. > > This is also well documented for Firefox here: > https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/URL_Bar_Algorithm > > I see value in updating schemaless :website tags with the https version if > available. > -- > Rodrigo Díez Villamuera > > w: http://rodrigodiez.io > t: @rodrigodiez_pro > p: 00 44 7513 638225 > > > > On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 13:50, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 10:00, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote: >> >> > The change you plan to execute is of limited use. Yes, it ensures more >> > conformity in the data, but it will be a temporary fix (since new >> > "wrong" URLs can be added at any time). >> >> This seems like an argument for never fixing any error. >> >> > So what your edit does is, it "touches" lots of objects and adds no >> > meaningful information whatsoever. >> >> This statement is false, not least because in some cases "http://"; is >> added, in others "https://";; each of those - and the difference >> between them - conveys meaningful information. >> >> > It creates load on the database >> >> The level of load is trivial. Have our database maintainers ever said >> that a load of such small magnitude is problematic? >> >> > There are many, many better ways to contribute to OSM than runnning a >> > useless automated conformity edit. Take a notebook or mobile editor, go >> > outside, check if the phone booths on OSM are still there on the ground, >> > add a few opening times, or even trees for that matter - a single hour >> > of such original work is more useful to OSM that what you are proposing >> > here. >> >> Denigrating another's contribution - a valid and valuable contribution >> - in this manner is antithetical to the spirit in which OSM activity >> is supposed to be conducted. >> >> > Remember: OSM is not an IT project. >> >> Of course it is. "Information technology (IT) is the use of computers >> to store, retrieve, transmit, and manipulate data or information." [1] >> >> >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_technology >> >> -- >> Andy Mabbett >> @pigsonthewing >> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
