I've also had an electric fence across a bridleway, and some very grumpy
cows the other side of it. Luckily the farmer appeared and was very
happy to let me through or it would have been retracing 3km of grassy
riding on a touring bike.
I'm rather prone to bike-hiking, even if not keen on it, so see the
benefit of a correct "bicycle=yes" - and I'll try to fill in the
tracktype, surface, and sometimes (rather subjective) bike difficulty
when I get home. After Saturday's ride one bridleway should have been
tagged "surface=water"
As for comfy Cotswolds - I'm not far from there, so I know you get
things like locked gates wrapped in barbed wire on bridleways, within
the boundaries of the changeset that prompted this
On 14/12/2020 21:51, Andy Townsend wrote:
On 14/12/2020 20:57, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
A barrier=stile on a long-established UK bridleway is 99.9% a mapping
error. Bridleways are open to horses and bikes, and so stiles are
forbidden - PRoW officers are pretty hot on this.
That may be the case in the comfy Cotswolds but I'm not sure that
necessarily the case everywhere else in the country. :)
Actual steps on bridleways are common enough that I had to add a
rendering for them at map.atownsend.org.uk (see
https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=19&lat=54.417701&lon=-0.525549
). I might have recently mentioned
https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=21&lat=54.0087259&lon=-1.0201263
(a bridleway with an electric fence across it) on this list as well.
There are plenty of signed bridleways where horse access might be
difficult for other reasons: I set horse_scale=demanding on
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/762748920 , but on balance it should
perhaps be a higher value due to the difficulty in negotiating the
descent. A subsequent mapper added bicycle=yes there - that's
entirely correct, but the depth of the mud and the thickness of the
trees would would be a challenge to even the keenest MTBer.
With regard to this alleged stile, the previous tagging and location
would suggest to me a barrier=horse_stile (mentioned earlier in the
thread) on the bridleway rather than a barrier=stile off it, but so
much here needs remapping or at the very least rechecking (the stream
differs greatly from the imagery, at least one of the bridleways looks
like a track to me, no designation tags) that personally I'd just
stick it in the "needs survey" bucket.
Best Regards,
Andy
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