That's great Donie, Will your request also cover openstreetmap or will we need to make a seperate application?
Dan On 01/10/2013, Donie Kelly <donie.ke...@gmail.com> wrote: > By the state of the kmz file it was thrown together as it doesn't look like > it was surveyed. On some motorway sections it even has the start and end > points on different sides of the road. > > This may be deliberate to make it awkward to use but we have come up an > algorithm to sort it out. > > My goal is to source the data and hopefully submit it to OSM for submission > as it's a big job to add it manually. There are 727 zones at present. > > I would rather my app could obtain the data from OSM as it could dynamically > update but v1 will not be doing this. > > I've just got a response from An Garda that my request has been passed up > the chain. > > Fingers crossed. > > Donie > >> On 1 Oct 2013, at 18:04, Aidan McGinley <aidmcgin+openstreet...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> It would appear this data is subject to some form of licence that means >> it >> is not really "public domain". The OSM guidelines are clear about how to >> deal with this. Approach the owner of the data and get permission to use >> the data under OSM terms. If there's any doubts after that contact the >> Licensing Working Group. I know it sucks to have all that process, but >> it >> would be a shame to use the data and then have to pull it out later down >> the line. >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ#2b._XYZ_Organisation_has_data_for_free_download_under_licence_N._Can_I_use_it_in_OSM.3F >> >> >>> On 1 October 2013 17:57, Richard Cantwell <manaboutco...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Dan, >>> >>> The key issue here is how did the Gardai or whoever made the .kmz for >>> them >>> source the data. If it was traced from an Ordnance Survey map or Google >>> Maps then we can't import it into OpenStreetMap as it is 'derived data' >>> and >>> has copyright conditions attached to it. My suspicion is that this is >>> probably the case, but if you were to contact the Gardai they might be >>> able >>> to confirm either way. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> -=- >>> Sent from my phone >>> >>>> On 1 Oct 2013, at 17:45, Daniel Cussen <d...@post.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> If you read here: >>>> http://psi.gov.ie/home/ >>>> >>>> It says >>>> "The Directive has been transposed into Irish law ..which places an >>>> obligation on public sector bodies to provide information about >>>> material that they are prepared to release under the Directive. The >>>> Regulations also give powers to the Minister for Public Expenditure >>>> and Reform to require public sector bodies to supply information to >>>> him and to specify the format." >>>> >>>> so I think you would still need to contact the Gardai, as far as I can >>> make out. >>>> >>>>> On 01/10/2013, Donie Kelly <donie.ke...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Does this data not fall under fair use they being a public body? How >>>>> can >>>>> they copyright it? I'm not an expert on copyright law btw :) >>>>> >>>>> Can this information be obtained under the freedom of information act >>> and >>>>> used for whatever? >>>>> >>>>> Donie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 1 Oct 2013, at 17:28, Daniel Cussen <d...@post.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> There is copyright info here: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=1442&Lang=1 >>>>>> >>>>>> You might need to ask for permission. Anyone want to ring the Gardai >>>>>> press office! >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 01/10/2013, Daniel Cussen <d...@post.com> wrote: >>>>>>> The data is hosted on the Gardai website. I am not sure on copyright >>>>>>> information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The zones can be viewed here: >>>>>>> http://www.garda.ie/gosafe.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> More info on the actual database, and how to extract it etc is here: >>>>>>> https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056903045 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> along with the fixed camera positions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dan >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 01/10/2013, Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 30/09/13 21:01, Daniel Cussen wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I did some work in the past moving the Gardai mobile speed camera >>>>>>>>> database over to a format for Garmin. Could someone look at >>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>> importing the garda data into openstreetmap? I don't know if it >>> would >>>>>>>>> be possible. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The database does not include the speed limits, just a start and >>>>>>>>> end >>>>>>>>> location. I don't know what tags should be used and how useful the >>>>>>>>> results would be on an off the shelf sat Nav. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is also a seperate file with fixed speed camera locations >>> (there >>>>>>>>> are very few) which could be a related project. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ideas/thoughts? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hiya Dan. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good idea. Where did you get the data? One of the biggest problems >>> with >>>>>>>> importing data into OSM is that a lot of map data is copyrighted in >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> way that doesn't allow import into OSM. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Talk-ie mailing list >>>>>> Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org >>>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talk-ie mailing list >>>> Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-ie mailing list >>> Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ie mailing list >> Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
