Maning's recent message about mapping the Batad rice terraces brings us back to this discussion.
I don't quite agree that mapping individual rice paddies as landuse=farm is the way to go. I think the whole rice farm should be mapped as a single object and then the walls/terraces should be mapped as a different object. I think man_made=bund is a pretty good suggestion. If we all agree on this tag, then we should use it and then suggest it to the global community on the tagging mailing list. ~Eugene On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Erwin Olario <gov...@gmail.com> wrote: > A bund is also defined as an embankment to control the flow of water. And > for reference, the English equivalent for the Tagalog term "pilapil" is > dyke or dike [0] or bund [1]. > > I am withdrawing my suggestion for the dyke tag, and second Maning's tag > man_made=bund as technically more appropriate in the context of Asian rice > fields and paddies. If this motion is carried, let's not forget to document > this somewhere [2][3]. > > [0] http://tl.w3dictionary.org/index.php?q=pilapil > [1] http://www.binisaya.com/node/21&search=root&word=pilapil > [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dbund > [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Mapping_conventions > > > > *Erwin Olario* > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > » email: erwin@ <er...@ngnuity.net>*n**gnu**IT**y**.**net* > <http://ngnuity.net/> | gov...@gmail.com > » mobile: (PHL): +63 908 817 2013 > » OpenPGP key: 3A93D56B | 5D42 7CCB 8827 9046 1ACB 0B94 63A4 81CE 3A93 > D56B > > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:18 PM, maning sambale < > emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes, truly awesome work by the Lubao MPDC staff especially Pepe. Just >> a bit of update from what I heard from Pepe and others. >> They were able to use the map in the preparation for Glenda. Right >> now, they are asking each barangay captain to identify key features in >> the map like (amenities, shops, name of rivers, sitios, etc) which >> they now add in the map. >> >> Tasking manager job is still not finished [0], and they appreciate >> everybody's review especially with validating the task. They are also >> having difficulty tagging some features (same as this original >> thread), I asked them to list them and send to this mailinglist so we >> can help them identify or create (if necessary) the best tag. >> >> Sorry for the digression, so what's the best tag now for paths along >> rice paddies? Should it be man_made=bund [1]? :) >> >> [0] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/329 >> [1] http://www.mozda.net/mozda6.html >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Erwin Olario <gov...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > On a related note, should we encourage mapping of individual rice >> paddies, >> > similar to what's being done with fish ponds? >> > >> > Erwin Olario >> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> > » email: er...@ngnuity.net | gov...@gmail.com >> > » mobile: (PHL): +63 908 817 2013 >> > » OpenPGP key: 3A93D56B | 5D42 7CCB 8827 9046 1ACB 0B94 63A4 81CE 3A93 >> D56B >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Erwin Olario <gov...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> It's probably not being used as such but rice are flood crops and the >> wiki >> >> page for dyke states it as "an embankment built to *restrict the flow >> of >> >> water or other liquids*" , which in this applies to restricting the >> water >> >> within the paddies. >> >> >> >> Is there a more appropriate tag? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Erwin Olario >> >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> >> » email: er...@ngnuity.net | gov...@gmail.com >> >> » mobile: (PHL): +63 908 817 2013 >> >> » OpenPGP key: 3A93D56B | 5D42 7CCB 8827 9046 1ACB 0B94 63A4 81CE 3A93 >> >> D56B >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com >> > >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I think neither tag is appropriate. man_made=dyke doesn't seem to be >> >>> appropriate since a dyke's purpose is to prevent flooding, and these >> rice >> >>> paddy embankments do not do that. >> >>> >> >>> On Aug 11, 2014 5:32 AM, "Erwin Olario" <gov...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> First of all, kudos to the volunteers working in the Lubao area[0] in >> >>>> Pampanga for the level of details they are adding to OpenStreetMap. >> >>>> >> >>>> I do wonder, however, if the appropriate tags are being used. In this >> >>>> case, paddy field levees are being tagged as highway=path, when in >> fact >> >>>> they are primarily used as embankments, not as paths. >> >>>> >> >>>> Many of us here in the mailing list would consider Lubao as a local >> >>>> showcase for OpenStreetMap and perhaps, like me, would like it to >> show what >> >>>> "Philippine Mapping Convention" is like in real life. >> >>>> >> >>>> I normally use the following tags for rice paddies: >> >>>> landuse=farmland >> >>>> crop=rice >> >>>> farm=flooded_crops >> >>>> >> >>>> What are your thoughts about tagging ways between paddies as >> >>>> man_made=dyke [1] over highway=path ? >> >>>> >> >>>> [0] http://osm.org/go/4zOPCCmZg-?m= >> >>>> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Ddyke >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Erwin Olario >> >>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> >>>> » email: er...@ngnuity.net | gov...@gmail.com >> >>>> » mobile: (PHL): +63 908 817 2013 >> >>>> » OpenPGP key: 3A93D56B | 5D42 7CCB 8827 9046 1ACB 0B94 63A4 81CE >> 3A93 >> >>>> D56B >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> talk-ph mailing list >> >>>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > talk-ph mailing list >> > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> cheers, >> maning >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk-ph mailing list >> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >> > > > _______________________________________________ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > >
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