I started to add some roads around Kårböle about an hour ago, from NVDB. I've also added a few local names. However, Ekonomiska kartan does not seem to work for the area.

For finding their way around, I guess roads and local names are most important?

But I am a bit confused about the location here. There is this Kårböle (Nötberget) outside Ljusdal: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/61.9880/15.2970

However, the map at link [2] below is another place: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/62.4188/14.9968

Which I think is "Enskogen".

Regardless, both areas need mapping of course.


Can we get high resolution up-to-date imagery somehow?


/Christian





Den 2018-07-23 kl. 20:16, skrev Christoffer Holmstedt:
Around 70 out of reported 144 Polish firefighters seems to be headed to Ljusdal (Kårböle) [1]. That would correspond to #01 Enskogen on the map Blake posted a link to in earlier email, some satellite images from Copernicus found at [2].

[1] https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/gavleborg/polska-brandstyrka-till-ljusdal-anlander-pa-tisdagen [2] http://emergency.copernicus.eu/mapping/list-of-components/EMSR298/ALL/EMSR298_01ENSKOGEN

2018-07-23 16:12 GMT+02:00 Christian Asker <christian.as...@gmail.com <mailto:christian.as...@gmail.com>>:

    Hej. Jag hjälper gärna till så mycket jag kan. Jag har inte
    pysslat med HOT förut, men har karterat en hel del i Sverige och
    även importerat en del från NVDB och Terrängkartan. Jag har ett
    litet script som plockar NVDB för ett område och taggar om till
    OSM-kompatibelt format för enklare import i JOSM.

    Mvh Christian (ChristianA)




    Den 2018-07-23 kl. 15:22, skrev Christoffer Holmstedt:


    2018-07-23 14:45 GMT+02:00 Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com
    <mailto:bgirar...@gmail.com>>:

        Thank you all for your replies.

        The firefighters are from Poland and in Poland they use OSM
        exclusively for their work.

        They do not know where they will be assigned yet so hopefully
        later today.

        They said they generally are interested in roads, forestry roads,
        waterways and water bodies (lakes, ponds, etc)

        So that is what they would like you to map.

        Any help finding hi resolution, recent imagery (government aerial
        imagery sources are usually best), or feedback on the
        existing OSM
        layers, which are best, most recent, etc is usually the very
        first
        step.

        I am guessing they will be assinged to one of the 9 areas on
        this map:

        
http://emergency.copernicus.eu/mapping/sites/default/files/thumbnails/EMSR298-AEM-1532344797-r05-v1.jpg
        
<http://emergency.copernicus.eu/mapping/sites/default/files/thumbnails/EMSR298-AEM-1532344797-r05-v1.jpg>

        Whoops, now that I look they updated it in the last hour and
        now it is
        12 areas. But I guess they will be at one of those areas.

        That map also gives you a very high level overview of the
        region affected.

        HOT mapping is just like regular OSM mapping, but we usually
        specify
        what is being requested, in this case, roads, forest roads,
        water.

        And the the Tasking Manager grids the area so people do not
        conflict
        with each other.

        I would suggest we use a private HOT Tasking Manager Project
        because
        the osm-se Tasking Manager seems to have a configuration
        problem at
        the moment (error on attempted login)
        http://tasks2.openstreetmap.se/ <http://tasks2.openstreetmap.se/>

        HOT's main priority in a case like this is to not damage the
        existing
        OSM mapping. We often work where there is no data (rural
        Africa for
        example) so we do not have that worry. In Sweden, you have an
        active,
        expert, group of mappers who already have a very good OSM
        map, we need
        to make sure we do not accidentally cause any issues for your
        community.

        More information as I receive it......

        Respectfully,
        Blake



        On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Johnny Blästa
        <johnny.bla...@gmail.com <mailto:johnny.bla...@gmail.com>> wrote:
        > I am a Swedish mapper with experience mapping in the areas
        surrounding the
        > fires and are willing to help with mapping.
        >
        > /Johnny
        >
        > Den mån 23 juli 2018 kl 13:34 skrev Björn Stenberg
        <bj...@haxx.se <mailto:bj...@haxx.se>>:
        >>
        >> I am a quite experienced Swedish mapper with some HOT
        mapping experience
        >> but I have never organised HOT work. I would definitely
        help with a HOT
        >> mapping effort.
        >>
        >> --
        >> Björn
        >> On 23 July 2018 12:53:16 pm Blake Girardot
        <bgirar...@gmail.com <mailto:bgirar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
        >>
        >> > Greetings,
        >> >
        >> > HOT received a request to improve the mapping around
        wild fires to
        >> > support fire fighters in Sweden.
        >> >
        >> > Is there a local, active person, who would like to take
        responsibility
        >> > to organize remote mapping projects to support that request?
        >> >
        >> > Or maybe folks who would contribute if I set up some
        project for local
        >> > mappers only to work on?
        >> >
        >> > Please let me know.
        >> >
        >> > Respectfully,
        >> > blake
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    I'm interested in helping out when the HOT tasking manager
    project is setup. I'm unable to coordinate a HOT project right
    now. If anyone is close to the fires there might be some
    possibilities to get better quality maps from the local
    firefighters/Swedish Armed Forces (SAF). In the news (SVT)
    yesterday it looked like SAF had drones up and running for imagery.

    Best regards
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