highway=bus_stop & railway=tram_stop are well-established and do the basic
job perfectly well

some people decided they wanted a different system

the value to the renderers of processing the new system is unclear at best;
so they aren't likely to

just add the established tags and be done with it


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Eventually has already taken 2 years and might take another 5. I tag all
> my bus stops with highway=bus_stop, I'll replace it on all 40000 of them
> with public_transport=platform/bus=yes at some point in the distant future.
> I've been asking to render it for ages now and I gave up hope.
> I also don't see why I would be double tagging though.
>
> The problem is, of course, that in my route relations I do use the role
> platform, and JOSM's validator doesn't like that. So be it. It's annoying
> when this pops up in other people's sessions though and they start asking
> questions about it.
>
> The icon you see in JOSM, is just an icon. The internal rendering rules
> give precedence to railway=tram_stop or public_transport=platform/tram=yes.
> That's not a problem.
>
> No reason for separating them.
>
> I do separate stops over different nodes when they belong to different
> operators though, because sometimes the zones differ, or the refs, or the
> names. I then combine them into a stop_area relation, together with a node
> public_transport=stop_position/bus=yes (as a node of the highway). I don't
> always create these and I never add them to the route relations.
>
> The route relations are a pain to maintain, no need to make it even more
> complicated.
>
> Polyglot
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/12/9 Mike N <nice...@att.net>
>
>> On 12/9/2013 6:52 AM, Gilles Baumgartner wrote:
>>
>>  Is it ok to *add* the legacy tag
>>> highway <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=bus_stop
>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbus_stop>
>>>
>>> to be at the same time compliant with the new tags but still make the
>>> renderer show the bus stop?
>>>
>>
>>   I would recommend adding the legacy tag.   This is because the public
>> transport tagging scheme is in a long transition period.  Eventually the
>> map rendering rules will be modified to include the new scheme.
>>
>>  *2. Combined stops, e.g. tram and bus*
>>>
>>
>>  I'm not familiar with this problem; hopefully someone else will have a
>> recommendation.
>>
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