Hello everybody,

I have lately been thinking about somehow reworking (or giving a new push to) 
the current p_t:v2 scheme.
Especially for the fact, that, since it was first proposed and accepted, not a 
lot has changed in which tags are rendered, how certain things are hence mapped 
and the Wiki-Pages on the topic have also changed in the last years without any 
visible going through another proposal process.

When I started mapping in 2011, and first read the german and then the english 
p:t:v2 wiki pages, it was:
- highway=bus_stop is a legacy tag that should eventually be completely phased 
out
- stop positions and platforms are to be both mapped
and some other things I already forgot…
Now, iD has a rule in its verifyer, that requires highway=bus_stop on platform 
nodes. The point of the public_transport tags is, among other points, to 
replace less dedicated highway tags.
I think it would be time for a p_t:v2.5 proposal, where we take the innicial 
ideas of the v2, maybe refine a few small details (like is stop_position 
required, or just platforms, can relations of route-parts be used in route 
relations to save on redundancy…) and then put it forward for voting. If 
accepted, we would possibly now have more leverage to get the editor and 
render-programers to actually properly implement it this time around.

Maybe I could find some time to write my suggestions into a document, and we 
could collect the ideas for those extra tags in there too. I think it would 
make more sense that way, than just the addition of a few tags to the current 
scheme, to then be ignored by the rest of OSM once again. 

Kind Regards
Robin D. (emergency99)


PS: The problem with bus_stop on platform: platforms can be nodes, lines, ways, 
even relations, highway=bus_stop can only be a node. This old tag should go the 
same way as the farm tag, which was (forcefully) abandoned a couple of years 
back. There it worked, why not for the „new“ p_t scheme?

> Am 28.04.2020 um 00:12 schrieb Guilherme Braga Alves <[email protected]>:
> 
> I read your responses and I tend to agree that the opening_hours tag is 
> enough to characterize services that are only operated during peak hours.
> 
> On the other hand, it seems to me that there is also agreement on the 
> relevance of having tags to differentiate bus services.
> 
> How can we expand this debate and expand this discussion? It may be 
> interesting for other members of the list to speak out, and then we can 
> create or redeem a proposal for implementing new tags.
> 
> P.S .: I don't know if this message will enter the reply queue correctly; I 
> hope I'm not opening a new topic. I apologize for my inexperience with 
> maillists.
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