Well, I have a conundrum here in Portland, Oregon. The 4 TriMet mappers here in Portland would prefer to tag all multi-use paths as paths, with bicycle=designated, particularly because we are attempting to make the Portland area routable. OpenTripPlanner, the multi-modal routing software we'll be using, routes for walking, bicycling, cars, and transit, so I'm hoping to let paths be paths because that implies bicycle AND pedestrian are legally allowed equal access. However, a fellow user, Paul Johnson, favors highway=cycleway for designated multi-use paths. I am cc-ing him for his input, as there is probably a good reason he prefers cycleways. I am also cc-ing the OSM-PDX google group for their input.
Terms: Cycleway: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcycleway "The highway=cycleway indicates that the used way is mainly or exclusively for bicycles. Some consider it better to use highway=path if use is not restricted to cyclists." Path: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath "This tag is used for paths for which all and any of highgway=footway, highway=cycleway, and highway=bridleway would be inappropriate or inadequate (or simply not sufficient), but which are nonetheless usable for travel or navigation. They might be not intended for any particular use, or intended for several different uses. Intended uses can be indicated with the access=designated keys. It is also used for hiking trails." Some examples of multi-use paths tagged as highway=cycleway: Eastbank Esplanade http://www.portlandonline.com/parks/finder/index.cfm?PropertyID=105&action=ViewPark Morrison Bridge Multi-use Path http://bikeportland.org/2011/06/10/morrison-bridge-path-to-close-for-construction-project-54559 Hawthorne Bridge, with both pedestrian and bicycle markings http://bikeportland.org/2005/11/21/hawthorne-bridge-gets-new-markings-673. Traffic stats: In 2008, the breakdown for peak-hour (4-6 pm) usage of these trails shows that cyclists usually dominate, but pedestrians make up from 15% to 50% of the traffic. http://www.portlandonline.com/transportation/index.cfm?c=34778&a=292746 -- PJ Houser Trimet GIS intern username: PJ Houser On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:00 AM, <talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Send Talk-us mailing list submissions to > talk-us@openstreetmap.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-us-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk-us digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: highway=cycleway or highway=path (Richard Welty) > 2. Re: highway=cycleway or highway=path (Mike N) > 3. Re: highway=cycleway or highway=path (Josh Doe) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:39:49 -0400 > From: Richard Welty <rwe...@averillpark.net> > To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path > Message-ID: <4dffe855.3030...@averillpark.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 6/20/11 8:29 PM, PJ Houser wrote: > > I'm sure this was discussed ad nauseum at some point, so feel free to > point > > me to the correct thread. > > > i would say that consensus was not achieved. > > i personally favor highway=path and then > setting bicycle, foot, etc., to indicate access permissions as appropriate. > > richard > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:48:00 -0400 > From: Mike N <nice...@att.net> > To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path > Message-ID: <4dffea40.1070...@att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 6/20/2011 8:39 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > > i personally favor highway=path and then > > setting bicycle, foot, etc., to indicate access permissions as > appropriate. > > I agree - this is the approach taken with the JOSM preset, and will > thus gravitate toward a more exact definition as tag sets become more > unified. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 22:11:27 -0400 > From: Josh Doe <j...@joshdoe.com> > To: Richard Welty <rwe...@averillpark.net> > Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path > Message-ID: <banlktinjrn1n-ump9bcon6vz73f_nbb...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Richard Welty <rwe...@averillpark.net> > wrote: > > On 6/20/11 8:29 PM, PJ Houser wrote: > >> > >> I'm sure this was discussed ad nauseum at some point, so feel free to > >> point > >> me to the correct thread. > >> > > i would say that consensus was not achieved. > > Consensus for all of OSM or OSM in the US? > > > i personally favor highway=path and then > > setting bicycle, foot, etc., to indicate access permissions as > appropriate. > > I'd tend to agree, unless it's abundantly clear that it's meant for > pedestrians (e.g. sidewalks) or cyclists (e.g. path designated as a > cycle path). > > -Josh > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > End of Talk-us Digest, Vol 43, Issue 29 > *************************************** >
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