So can we revert NE2's revert from last night? On Feb 11, 2013 10:35 AM, "Michael Patrick" <geodes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> FYI, an official ruling from Mouseland. This email stuff is pretty cool, > one can actually directly ask somebody who is a Subject Matter Expert! ;-) > > Michael > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: FHP <f...@flhsmv.gov> > Date: Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:08 AM > Subject: RE: Legal Intersection Crossing > To: Michael Patrick <geodes...@gmail.com> > > > Dear Michael,**** > > ** ** > > Thanks for your inquiry. Your question is:**** > > ** ** > > The maneuver in question is whether one can proceed from the off ramp stop > line, proceed perpendicular across Buena Vista Dr. , and enter onto the > southbound onramp back onto southbound World Drive. **** > > ** ** > > The answer is *“not without violating Florida law”.* **** > > ** ** > > Point #1: The off ramp lane in your scenario is clearly marked as a “Left > Turn Only” lane by the turn arrows painted on the roadway. In your > scenario, instead of making a legal left turn, you would drive straight > across the intersection and cross a “solid white line” and enter a “Right > turn only lane” as indicated by the right turn arrows painted on the > roadway.**** > > ** ** > > Point #2: The right turn lane on Buena Vista Dr in which you would be > entering, has a *solid white line* on both sides of the lane which means > that a vehicle that has lawfully entered the lane cannot exit or change > lanes and no other vehicles are permitted to cross the solid white line to > enter the lane at that location.**** > > ** ** > > The Florida Driver Handbook states on page 47:**** > > ** ** > > *Solid White Line* > > A solid white line marks the right edge of the roadway or separates lanes > of traffic moving in the**** > > same direction. You may travel in the same direction on both sides of this > line, but you should**** > > not cross the line unless you must do so to avoid a hazard.**** > > ** ** > > Since no hazard exit, this would be a violation of Florida Law. **** > > ** ** > > *Customer Service Center* > > *Correspondence/Email Unit* > > *Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles* > > *www.flhsmv.gov*** > > ** ** > > > The Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles is committed to > Service, Integrity, Courtesy, Professionalism, Innovation and Excellence in > all we do. Please let us know how we are doing via our online customer > service survey at *https://www.research.net/s/MLR9RGC.* > > ** > > > *From:* Michael Patrick [mailto:geodes...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, February 11, 2013 1:47 AM > *To:* FHP > *Subject:* Legal Intersection Crossing**** > > ** ** > > We are embedding turn restrictions in automated routing software. **** > > ** ** > > What is contested: **** > > ** ** > > The general area is west of Epcot Center, the end of the southbound off > ramp from southbound World Drive to the intersection with Buena Vista Dr.* > *** > > See attached photo BuenaVistaDrive-004.jpg ( or **** > > > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bxor0dnxUrN2S25sLXRLUW4wb0E/edit?usp=sharing > )**** > > ** ** > > The maneuver in question is whether one can proceed from the off ramp stop > line, proceed perpendicular across Buena Vista Dr. , and enter onto the > southbound on ramp back onto southbound World Drive. This is shown as the > red arrow on BuenaVistaDrive-001.jpg ( or see **** > > > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bxor0dnxUrN2M0lIY0RoUUEzUTA/edit?usp=sharing) > **** > > ** ** > > This seems to be indicated because of the double signal visible from the > off ramp stop line, even though at this point the road is a single lane. > Also,there is a white left turn pavement arrow on the exit ramp.**** > > See the red arrow on BuenaVistaDrive-002.jpg ( or **** > > > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bxor0dnxUrN2em84TG1jb2hTcTQ/edit?usp=sharing) > **** > > ** ** > > Superficially, at least, it seems possible to do this without crossing the > gore markers in the intersection.**** > > BuenaVistaDrive-003.jpg ( or **** > > > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bxor0dnxUrN2X1RKVzI3RXdzQzA/edit?usp=sharing) > **** > > ** ** > > Also, although there is only a double signal on Buena Vista Dr. eastbound > at this intersection, the stop line extends all the way across all three > lanes of traffic, including the exit only onto the southbound World Drive > ramp. **** > > BuenaVistaDrive-005.jpg ( or **** > > > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bxor0dnxUrN2YlotaTVMRHA2OW8/edit?usp=sharing) > **** > > ** ** > > After researching the Federal Highway Standards, the Florida Driver's > Manual, etc. we were unable to make a conclusion. ** > > ** ** > > Thank you for your time and consideration,**** > > ** ** > > Michael Patrick**** > > Open Street Map**** > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > >
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