Hi, On 03/03/2018 12:32 AM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: > Even as I knew my "contact one SEO/Marketing firm, see what happens" approach > was quite pedestrian
I'd like to think of your approach - contact the business that is advertised, through the contact channel they voluntarily publish, and ask whom they've contracted for advertising - as the "front door" approach which I find preferable to the "back door" of trawling our logs for IP numbers and trying to find out who's behind it. Firstly, the "back door" approach is limited to those in OSM who have the requisite privileged access; secondly, it is likely to land you with subcontractors who have little interest in a cooperative future vision because they're just doing what they are told. So +1 for more people following the front door approach, and compiling a list of SEO companies and cataloguing their efforts and reaching out to them to politely requires compliance. In my opinion, this is something we should do as a community, locally, and not wait for someone to lead the effort. I think that "making it easier for them to conform" should have its limits in us defining and communicating the envelope of acceptable contribution. Suggesting that it should be us who develop software or invest time in curating third-party data sets would sound a bit disingenious to me; next thing that someone suggests is because we're doing their work for them we should also charge them? I wouldn't want to go down that route. And of course the non-confrontational approach can only ever be the carrot, and there must be a stick to complement it. For every conformant SEO company there will be a dozen who try to game the system, because gaming systems is their core business, that's what they do with Google & Co.; and even if we found some way to keep more advertising from entering OSM, there's several thousand advertising POIs in OSM in the US alone and they won't magically go away. So let's roll up our sleeves and get to work. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" _______________________________________________ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
