On 2018.04.19. 02:36, Jack Burke wrote: > I've been tagging roads like that as compacted, once I learned more > about the surfacing tech.
Same here - was tagging roads like that as gravel until I found out it's compacted. Editor topic - perhaps editors should be extended to offer both compacted & gravel for the UI choice of "gravel", with compacted being default even ? > -jack > > -- > Typos courtesy of fancy auto spell technology > > On April 18, 2018 6:19:07 PM EDT, Toby Murray <toby.mur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I recently bought a gravel bicycle to ride on the many gravel roads in > Kansas. Like this one: > https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=nYO4JI46L0SWzNAQlLT4kA&focus=photo > > First question: What would you call this road? Obviously I am calling > it a "gravel road" but a couple of people have said they would call it > a "dirt road" so I'm curious if there are any other common terms to > describe this type of road in different regions of the US. > > Second question: How would you tag this road? There is a > surface=gravel tag that is in pretty common usage in Kansas and > neighboring states. However looking at the wiki page for the surface > tag[1], this is not wiki-correct. According to that page > surface=gravel is to be used for large rocks (4-8cm) that are laid > down loosely like those typically used as ballast on railroad beds. I > believe The Mapillary picture I linked to would be considered > surface=compacted according to the wiki because the rocks are much > smaller and the surface is stabilized with a binding agent. There is a > big difference between the two when it comes to bicycle riding. > Railroad ballast is bone jarring and flat tire inducing whereas gravel > roads are pretty manageable on the right kind of bike. > > But If you call something a "gravel road" and there is a "gravel" > option in the editor preset for the surface tag, people are going to > choose the gravel option and not look for "compacted" since that is > not a common term here. I assume it is a more common term in the UK > and that is why it is used in OSM. > > And lastly there are trails that are surfaced with a similar material > but crushed to a smaller size like here: > https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=iQNqP-dfQ-Rm6AD9REMsgQ&focus=photo > > I'm trying to decide if that is better as surface=compacted or > surface=fine_gravel although fine_gravel seems to be a slightly > different process from what I see on the wiki. > > Maybe this should be directed at the tagging list but I thought I > would get thoughts from the US community since we seem to be the ones > using the tag incorrectly (according to the wiki) > > [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface > > Toby -- Rihards _______________________________________________ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us