It's worth noting that at least one business out there (locu) has a nasty habit of scraping menu data and then trying to sign restaurants up for a search-engine visibility package in order to be able to update it (they'll also remove it without a fee, if you ask in the right way, but there are hoops to be jumped through).
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 1:39 PM, Clifford Snow <cliff...@snowandsnow.us> wrote: > When I'm out taking pictures for later entry into OSM, I bring a bunch of > business cards to hand out. The card has my name, phone number, email and > the OSM website. I do this because I'm hoping to get interested businesses > to add more data to OSM. But giving the staff a card might also lessen > their concerns. And it does help spread the word about OSM. > > Clifford > > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 9:39 AM Jmapb <jm...@gmx.com> wrote: > >> Hi USA, just wanted to bring up an issue that I've run into recently >> while mapping businesses in NYC. >> >> Whenever I'm walking through the city, I tend to whip out the phone and >> check for anything missing, incorrect, or incomplete. Often this means >> pausing in front of a restaurant and keying in contact info or opening >> hours. Sometimes I also take pictures with the intention of adding tags >> later. >> >> There have always been a few who treat this sort of thing with suspicion >> -- especially taking pictures. But a couple times lately I've met with >> outright hostility from restaurant staff when taking down their data. >> One owner complained he was sick of "people from websites posting his >> information." Turns out the culprits were food delivery services, who >> had been offering delivery from his place without authorization. I plead >> my innocence, but this guy was in no mood to appreciate the differences >> between a crowdsourced map project and a move-fast-and-break-things >> delivery startup. >> >> I discussed this with a friend of mine who owns a restaurant, and he >> recounted a similar story -- an angry customer calling the restaurant to >> complain about a late delivery. This restaurant doesn't do delivery, and >> has never partnered with any third parties for delivery. But a food >> delivery startup (I'm not naming names... actually I can't even keep >> them straight) apparently scouted their location, imported the menu >> (which changes often and is not posted on the web), and listed the >> restaurant as a delivery client -- all without even informing the >> restaurant, much less attempting to make any sort of agreement. They >> wouldn't even take down the listing when confronted -- figured they >> could just bully their way into a business relationship. And they were >> listing dishes that weren't even on the menu anymore! Though they took >> them all down quickly when the restaurant's lawyer called. >> >> Don't know how common these sort of predatory tactics are outside NYC, >> but fair warning, there may be businesses out there who are no longer >> delighted at the thought of someone "from the internet" taking notice of >> their publicly-posted information. >> >> Happy mapping, Jason >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> > > > -- > @osm_seattle > osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us > OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > -- Kevin Broderick k...@kevinbroderick.com
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