On March 3, 2018 9:44:25 AM EST, "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk" <talk@gtalug.org> wrote: >Russell -- thanks for the tip about small footprint system rescue -- >I'll try it.
Just a small correction and a confession. Gentoo uses Portage not Aptitude as its update manager. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portage_(software) I've never actually installed Gentoo but for a Linux pocket knife, you can't beat the System Rescue iso for portability and functions. > >Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Russell > To: Steve Petrie, P.Eng. ; GTALUG Talk > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 11:01 AM >Subject: Re: [GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set - >Shipped To Canadian Destination ?? > > > > >On March 2, 2018 10:25:16 AM EST, "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk" ><talk@gtalug.org> wrote: > >Many thanks to the many helpful responders !! > > > >Too many for me to thank individually ... > > > >* * * > >* * * > > > >Here is what I have digested and decided, based on GTALUG advivce > >received: > > > >1. Thanks for the multiple offers to burn & ship DVDs and / or other > >media. > > > >2. I'll accept the USB device advice, and use a USB device for the > >installation media. > > > >3. I already own two (2) WD 1 TB USB drives, acquired for taking hard > >disk backups of the new PC. So I'll try using one of those for the > >debian Linux (LXDE) installation device. > > >>4. My friend has a Windows 10 setup with high speed Internet >connection >>so I'll see if he and I can get all three installation DVD images onto > >that USB drive. We can't use any Linux utilities while doing that, > >unfortunately. Then I'll try the Linux install from that USB drive. > >I know your final target is lxde but the System Rescue iso has a very >small footprint and it is great for slow connections. I have done it >for several people in the past and it contains number of very useful >tools for disk manipulation. It uses Debian apt tools for repository >management and is based on well documented Gentoo linux. > > http://www.system-rescue-cd.org > > > >>5. Thanks also for the cautionary advice re: dial-up modem on Linux. I > >did some research earlier, but of course the proof will be in the > >actual attempt to use the modem :) I do plan to upgrade to a faster > >(and dedicated) Internet link !! Just wanted to try first with the >>dial-up modem. Trying to simplify my life by postponing the networking > >upgrade. And also out of plain perverse curiosity, more than anything > >else. > > > >* * * > >* * * > > > >Thanks again to GTALUG members for all the advice. Makes this whole > >shift from Windows XP to debian Linux soooo much more comfortable. No > >doubt I'll be back in touch again at some point, during the build > >adventure... :) > >I use system rescue to prepare dual boot systems and troubleshoot with >it all the time. My copy is on a very old 1gig usb pen drive. I >wouldn't start a fresh install without having a copy available. > > Good luck with the build. > > > >Best, > > > >Steve > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > From: Giles Orr > > To: Steve Petrie, P.Eng. ; GTALUG Talk > > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 2:24 PM > >Subject: Re: [GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set - > >Shipped To Canadian Destination ?? > > > > > >On 1 March 2018 at 09:28, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk > ><talk@gtalug.org> wrote: > > > > Greetings To GTALUG, > > > >I am starting to order the parts for building a new desktop PC to run > >debian Linux as primary operating system. Replacing an ancient Dell > >desktop PC with MS Windows XP. > > > > * * * > > * * * > > > >I'm looking for a source for full set of physical debian Linux (LXDE) >>installation DVDs (NOT a live install, as I understand that Linux does > >not yet support live install with UEFI). > > >>I need the installation DVDs because I use a very slow telephone-grade >>dial-up line modem for my Internet connection, so a Linux installation > >via network is not feasible. (I plan to try to keep using the dial-up >>line with the new debian Linux PC, at least for the first while. >GTALUG >>advice put me on to the idea of using a USB dial-up modem with Linux.) > > > >Found a U.S.A.-side vendor www.shoplinuxonline.org but am concerned > >about getting caught in snags with payment / collection of Canadian > >customs duties, that may be collected by courier delivering to the > >Canadian address from U.S.A > > > > * * * > > * * * > > > >Does anyone know of a Canadian-side online seller of debian Linux > >(LXDE) DVD installation sets ?? > > > >I could potentially beg use of a friend's Windows 10 setup on Bell >>Fibe, and download the debian Linux LXDE) DVD image files and burn the > >DVDs myself, but I prefer to avoid the hassle and probable mistakes. > > > >Any thoughts from GTALUG members, on this piddling but potentially >>messy detail of getting a full set of debian Linux (LXDE) install >DVDs, > >greatly appreciated !! > > > > > > > > > >The last time I had to help someone with a modem on Linux 3-4 years > >ago, it was kind of a nightmare. Before you buy, make sure it has >>Linux support - and then spend some time researching what they mean by > >that, because one of the things I encountered was "has Linux support" > >meant "if you go pay someone else for a driver that only works with a >>specific kernel." I don't consider that real Linux support, so do >your > >homework. > > > > >>Keep in mind that every time a new kernel comes out (~once a month >with > >Debian stable, ~every two weeks with testing??) you're in for an > >overnight (or at least multi-hour) download. I'm afraid you're going >>to find yourself dreading the 'apt-get dist-upgrade' command, which >you > >_should_ run often. > > > > > >I'd also add a vote for seeing if you can get USB media: it's a lot > >easier to deal with these days, and more common. It could also allow >>you to skip putting an optical drive into your new machine if you >don't > >otherwise need it. > > > > > > -- > > > > Giles > > https://www.gilesorr.com/ > > giles...@gmail.com > > -- > Russell -- Russell --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk