Hi,
Start the process, after it reboots, walk away.  Go have some coffee or a 
drink.  Come back after 20 to 30 minutes and try windows-enter.
If Windows 10 is ready narrator will come up.

Chris


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-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared....@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Lynn White via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 3:15 PM
To: Doug Geoffray <dgeoff...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: installing Windows 10

Doug,

So, during the process, how will you know when to run Narrator?

On 7/27/2015 12:05 PM, Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote:
> Richard,
>
> As mentioned, there are a couple screens that come up that do not have 
> Window-Eyes running.  These couple screens will require you to run 
> Narrator.  But all other places the upgrade process will allow 
> Window-Eyes to run and be used.
>
> Doug
>
> On 7/27/2015 12:57 PM, Kurlander Richard (750000) wrote:
>> So if I understand right when I put 9.2 on my windows 8.1 machine I can 
>> install windows 10 using windoweyes and it will talk or do I have to use 
>> narrator?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Talk 
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc....@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:39 PM
>> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>> Subject: Re: installing Windows 10
>>
>> Don,
>>
>> There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.
>> Let me address each.
>>
>> 1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed
>>
>> You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will 
>> block the installation of any version less than 9.2.
>>
>> 2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system
>>
>> Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this 
>> point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 
>> itself is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator 
>> to help you with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can 
>> be launched with Windows-Enter.
>>
>> 3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10
>>
>> You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system 
>> before the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not 
>> seen the final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out 
>> on Wednesday so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the 
>> internal builds I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had 
>> Windows 9.2 installed and running on my Windows 7 system when I 
>> started the Windows 10 upgrade.  Everything was working well and 
>> speaking perfectly.  However, there are eventually two back to back 
>> screens which have Window-Eyes unloaded and require you to launch 
>> Narrator.  After those two screens the upgrade will continue and 
>> Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be working under Windows 10.
>>
>> However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes 
>> accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror 
>> driver which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does 
>> not support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes 
>> without the driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most 
>> cases you don't even need an off screen model but it is still 
>> important to resolve this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to 
>> simply run your Window-Eyes
>> 9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been 
>> installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  
>> This will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to 
>> have a full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.
>>
>> 4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10
>>
>> You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system 
>> before the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like 
>> Windows 7 there are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes 
>> running so you will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come 
>> up and your Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 
>> 9.2.  There is nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 
>> 10 both use an accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is 
>> good after the upgrade.
>>
>> Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to 
>> Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:
>>
>> http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-prepar
>> ing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/
>>
>> Regards,
>> Doug
>>
>> On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
>>> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without 
>>> sighted help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
>>> Thanks
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