That's the point though. With the SMA you don't HAVE! to buy those, well except for Vocalizer.


Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-----Original Message----- From: gary melconian via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 5:35 PM
To: 'Chip Orange' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; dlh...@centurylink.net
Subject: RE: SMA or free version

Your wrong. You can by the e ovices , you canbbuy both eloquence nad
vocalizer. I don't recal lteh cost of eloquence but I do recall its $39 for
the vocalizer package. Support iti think you can pay for . So overall you
can do it how ever you need to.  In the work setting you have support for
the IT guys.  I don't know but for what I need ot do. I always have my
laptop in the work seting separate for the work network and I have special
credientils to log into my corporate network. That's how I solve that one.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+gmelconian619=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chip Orange via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 3:35 PM
To: dlh...@centurylink.net; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
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Subject: RE: SMA or free version

Hi Whoever (there's no name),

Yes, they obviously get a small payment from Microsoft for offering the
"free" Window-Eyes; however, as I said separately, you do not get any
support, and I believe, you do not get any "high quality" synthesizer.  Both
of these are really worth it alone.

As for SMA: did you realize if you had had an SMA when 9.2 was released, you
would get it for free and not use up your SMA?  This is just one good reason
for buying an SMA; the company offers you free upgrades when others pay, and
you don't always use your SMA.  When you do, it costs less than paying for
the upgrade, and you know at the time you buy the SMA how much it is costing
and whether you have the money.  Otherwise, in a year or two, there could be
a major upgrade which costs much more than you expected and you may not have
the money readily available.  Also, if an employer or institution is
purchasing WE for you, it's often easier to get them to include an SMA
rather than to purchase the upgrade later (a colleague of mine just went
through this at work).

Chip


-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+chip.orange=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 6:18 PM
To: john s; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: SMA or free version

I have never understood the thinking behind the Free version of Window Eyes
for those using MS Office.

I have had the sense that GW Micro was running short of Cash flow  the last
few years, and was looking to do something to keep the business going.  I
hope I am incorrect about this, but this is my sense about GW Micro's last
three or four years.


Unless they get some sort of payment from Microsoft, I can't see where
it benefits GW Micro, now A I Squared, to have a Free edition.    Seems
like that would take away from the Bottom Line, rather than add to it.

but, Hey, A Company can do what it wishes.    What do I know.



I've been a Paying customer since the DOS days with Vocal eyes, and have
bought every Upgrade as it came along.

I have not understood the SMA thing either, because here again, the only
reason why I can think of to even have such a system, is to obtain much
needed cash flow.  Although, all that is happening, is that the Company
is borrowing from its Customers.    This is not Smart.   Sure, Sure, it
is marketed in such a way, that it sounds like it is the Customer who
benefits the most. Sure, you get a slight discount for purchasing ahead, but
the Company that borrows from its customers, end up with less when they
release a new edition.

I don't know what the best answer is when operating a Company such as a
Screen Reader manufacturer.    the idea is to sell product, to make a
profit large enough to pay for Research and Development, and to make the
owners and Employees happy enough to keep doing what they are doing.

It is a very limited market, as only the seriously blind are likely to need
such a program, and most seriously Blind are also seriously limited when it
comes to buying items that are expensive.


I am sure trying to keep up with every new Operating System from Microsoft
is no easy task.  And the Web has to be an absolute nightmare when it comes
to attempting to make a screen reader work with what is likely to be found
on web sites put up by all kinds of people, all around the World.

I feel sorry for those guys in Development that have the chore of making a
Screen Reader work with most everything found on the ever changing Web.




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