Talk about maudlin. I Sold a bunch of stuff--an early 80's Fender Strat, a
couple of pistols, PA power amps, a complete light show, and then my brother
and I cut up and sold a 1974 Kurbmaster step van for scrap aluminum so that
I could buy a 1994 IBM computer and Vocal-Eyes three point zero. That part
isn't maudlin; it was desperation. The maudlin part is, I still have that
computer in storeage. Sounding board, super speaker, and all. Instruction
manuals, installation floppies--the works.

I can't bring myself to get rid of the things. Probably because of the high
personal cost. Especially that Fender Strat. I had the frets dressed just
before selling it and the thing played slicker than buttered ice.

Lou N.
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I use to Vocal eyes.  I don't remember much about it but do remember it.
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> Hi.
> I do remember that key punch machine. Was it the model IBM 011?
> I still remember some of the Hollerith codes.
> I did BAL and Cobol programming using punch cards.
> Phil
>
>
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> On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 4:33 PM
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> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: Screen Reader History
>
> Yes, I remember punch cards.  I did RPG and COBOL, and I remember the flow
> charts and everything.  You had to write the stuff up in braille, and then
> make the punch cards, then run the punch cards and print it out.  I used 
> to
> be able to read the punch cards.  I know there were those key punch things
> that looked like electric typewriters, but does anybody ever remember 
> those
> manual keypunches?  They had I think something like twelve keys on them, 
> so
> you had to press the right combinations in order to make the letter you
> wanted to write.  Like writing braille, sort-of.  Pam.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: LB via Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 12:38 PM
> To: dlh...@centurylink.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Screen Reader History
>
> Hi!
>
>    Yes, memory lane. Remember those nasty punch cards? You certainly hoped
> that no one tripped you up, or you spilled soda on them, for that nasty
> picking up the cards and sorting them out...boy those were the days.
>
>    I had used basic, self taught for work and re-wrote a Cornel University
> experts software he had written for the NCR production line. It did 
> little,
> so I did it.
>    I wrote all 3 points, Data Entry, Data processing, and Data printing of
> the charts. All were for quality control all through the production line 
> for
> all printers and terminals produced at the Ithaca plant...
>    Remember, cassette tapes were used back then for data processing, along
> with 10 inch disks, that had only about 2K of memory/space on them.
>    All the data entered by the secretary was processed one at a time and 
> by
> noon the data was sorted and processed. I used the 2K disks and limited
> memory to do al this stuff...
>    Talk about the stone age, you certainly learned to use limited space 
> for
> everything, for you had no choice.
>    But it worked, in fact, was all done 6 months before I went blind, a 
> car
> accident, and it was my perfect transition over to a new job at the same
> company; I was there resident expert and saved the company, so I was told.
>
>    Then, after loosing the eye sight I was given a Braille machine, which
> was like having a file cabinet next to you. It was made out of Oak wood, 
> for
> the printing punches had to be kept quiet and strong enough to be kept 
> from
> bouncing around, thus the solid wood cabinet was used and a tray under it
> for the perforated Braille paper that came up through a slot as the 
> tractor
> pulled it up.
>
>    Yes, TriFormations produced that Brailler...
>
>    The good old days, or "Stone Age" as most people would say now. You
> know, like the slide rule, our hand held computer back in prehistoric
> times...
>
>        Bruce
>
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Screen Reader History
>
>
> Wow!  This is bringing back some fun memories!
>
> Around 1983 or 84 i started taking some BASIC programming language
> classes at my local Radio Shack.    they had several Model 4's that ran
> Trsdos and CPM.  the instructor had rigged up the systems to speak.  it
> was quite crude and was not a Screen Reader at all.  No way to repeat
> anything.  but it was a start, I knew right there and then, I wanted a
> Computer.  I begged, borrowed and stole enough to finally get one of
> those Model 4 systems.  Bought some actual Screen Reader for about $300
> and I wa son my way.  Loved playing Zork, and many other Infocomm games.
>
> I was in a Relationship that went bad.  The woman gave me back my
> engagement ring, and I traded it to a guy that had several IBM XT
> machines.  And once I had my first MS Dos system, there was no looking
> back.    This may have been around 1986 or 87.    I am so glad that
> woman broke up with me!  Because she did, I had a Career in Computers.
> Too funny.
>
>
> Bought a screen reader out of Ohio, think it was called Enhanced PC.
> then bought the one done by Arctic.  finally came on to Vocal Eyes around
> 1991 or 92.
> When Windows  3.1 came along, I did purchase  some windows Screen Reader
> out of Canada.  It sucked, but I needed it for work.
>
> i bought the Window eyes program when it came along.  And it was  a bit
> limited, but it worked well enough for me to keep my job.   Been with
> Window eyes to this day.  have yet to buy JAWS, although I've helped 
> others
> who have it.
>
> thanks for the walk down memory lane.
>
> edline!  Now that makes me laugh.i once had to use that very limited
> editor to write COBOL and JCL.  Was using a PC hooked up to a huge
> mainframe at Boeing.
>
> I kept wanting to use Word Star to write my code, but was told to use
> Edline or else!
>
>
> Crazy times back then.
>
>
> -- 
> Dave <dlh...@centurylink.net>
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