Just for the record, I also did exactly what Lou recommended, although
I've been doing these very steps ever since Windows 95, and they have,
without exception, always worked. However for some reason, these steps
don't always accomplish the desired results. Apparently, judging by a
number of posts about this issue since yesterday afternoon, this has
been the experience of other veteran users of Window-Eyes as well, so I
don't think it fair to assume that we are all just dunces that just
can't follow instructions.
Man, I can't believe I'm being this snarky, but I really don't know of
any other way to react to the assumption that this has to be the fault
of the user. This feature is simply not apparently one of the more
stable features of Window-Eyes. It may work just fine on the same page
tonight, then on this very night I can go to another page on a different
site entirely which contains the same style of combo box, and the
feature may not work at all.
I really don't wish to blame WE for this issue, if indeed the blame
would be more properly placed upon Windows 10, but please don't assume
that just because I do the correct thing automatically means that I will
get the desired results, maybe I will, or maybe I wont.
I think I've stated the case just about as clearly as it can be stated
by me this evening at least.
As I've said before, these combo boxes aren't inaccessible, I can press
the desired letter and then tab to the go button and get where I wish to
go, but I am not likely to be able to simply press enter and get right
to that go button, or pass go and get the listing I am looking for.
Hope this semi rant helps in your understanding of my situation. It
really isn't a show stopper, just an annoyance.
Have a happy 4th,
Larry
On 7/2/2016 9:07 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:
Hi Lou,
Thanks for taking the time to test this on your PC. I am glad to hear that the
author combo box on BARD is working well for you and others when using the
correct techniques. The steps you listed in your message follow best practices
for interacting with combo boxes. And, I wanted to clarify that these keyboard
techniques are not tied directly to Window-Eyes. This keyboard support (i.e.
Alt-Down to open, Up/Down or first letter navigation to change selection, Enter
to close) is built right into the combo box control and web browser whether you
are using a screen reader or not. Holding down Alt while Down Arrowing is not
the correct technique for navigating through the options in a combo box and is
not a Window-Eyes feature.
Best,
Marc
-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 1:07 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: Combo boxes on the BARD site
Hey, Larry.
I don't remember ever having an issue on the BARD web site. I just went there
and logged in and did this.
Pressed the letter C to jump to the author's last name combo box.
Pressed enter to exit browse mode.
Pressed and released Alt-down arrow to expand the combo box.
Note: At this point, Window-Eyes announced that the control had expanded and
called the control a list view.
Arrowed down--in this case--to the letter M.
Note: Window-Eyes spoke each letter as it was highlighted.
Pressed Enter to close the combo box-come-list view.
Note: Window-Eyes voiced that the control was closed. I forget exactly what WE
said.
Tabbed to the go button and pressed spacebar.
In your previous posts, it sounded like you are holding the alt key down while
arrowing. It's been a while since I've read the WE manual. Is this a new Window-Eyes
feature? I forgot to check whether that key combination works; fireworks and a
neighbor trying to get his toddler son to sleep kept me up kinda late. <wan
smile>.
Lou N.
-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 10:07 PM
To: Marc Solomon; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Tony C
Subject: Re: Combo boxes on the BARD site
The combo box is author's last name.
On 7/1/2016 8:56 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:
Thanks Tony. Larry can you confirm?
Best,
Marc
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On July 1, 2016 9:35:21 PM Tony C <tch...@mediacombb.net> wrote:
I think he's talking about the combo box where you can search by
author's last initial, and the other one is different jenre's box.
-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:42 PM
To: Larry Higgins ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Combo boxes on the BARD site
Larry,
I don't know what combo box you are referring to. Can you please
describe where the combo box is and how you navigate to it.
Thanks,
Marc
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On July 1, 2016 6:06:37 PM Larry Higgins <larryhiggin...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Mark,
I just press enter on the combo box, turning off browse mode, then I
either arrow down through the letter options, or hold down the alt
key and do the same. I do not hear the chosen letter option spoken
at all, unless I tab away and back. I just don't think it is
supposed to work this way.
As I've said before, the combo boxes aren't unnavigable, I can
simply press a desired letter and get to where I'm trying to go, but
I would like to have the other option open to me on this page, and
others like it. if at all possible. Who knows, maybe I just have a
wrong setting somewhere, or something.
On 7/1/2016 2:25 PM, Marc Solomon wrote:
Larry,
I have a test account. What I need are steps to duplicate the problem.
Thanks,
Marc
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On July 1, 2016 2:28:24 PM Larry Higgins
<larryhiggin...@comcast.net>
wrote:
I'm using IE 11.
You'll need a login and password. I could send mine to you in private.
https://nlsbard.loc.gov/login
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