Unfortunately the continued lack of an official answer is only going to lead
to more such speculation. As for JAWS being a very good program as someone
who used it for ten years before switching to WE I'm going to have to beg to
differ, but that's another topic.
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From: Jim via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:16 PM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
I agree!
There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO regarding
this topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA. So I
think that someone is simply trying to start and continue totally
unfounded rumors. I really do wish this list would get back to
discussing Window-Eyes and Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting and
spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it. PLEASE
folks! Have A Great Day! de
<KF8LT><Jim>.
On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
I agree.
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On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM
To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's the
thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my
friends...
On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still
selling it? Pam.
-----Original Message----- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
And lets add to that. How about several employees leaving Ai
Squared. The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling Window-Eyes.
-----Original Message----- From: brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent
support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does
this tell you?
On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
Hi there FOLKS!
Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far
as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate
future. I really cannot say as much for the long run. I called about
obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for
the future as far as that goes. So Please do not start this BS about
Window-Eyes being dead again. That, I can say I would GREATLY
APPRECIATE!. <KF8LT><Jim Wohlgamuth>
On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:
Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing. JAWS does a very
good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job
than Window Eyes.
But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program,
and they always want Money Money Money for their latest and greatest
upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like an Update,
andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore you spend
an extra $200.
Then
they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has
trouble installing on more than one or two Systems.
And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit Buggy, and I hate it when I
loose speech, and I cannot tell if it was Window Eyes or something
else in my system that caused the system lock up.
I am Joking, but I do understand that Blind people are all Thieves
and we would steal the Copper Penny's covering our dear
Grandmother's eyes, as she awaits her funeral, if we only could find
her without someone taking our hand and leading us up to the old girl.
Of course JAWS selling their program for over $1000 has nothing to
do with the desperation of many who are Blind.
Here is something to think about-
I am going to go out to the Computer Store tonight, and Purchase a
Quad Core 3.4 I5 System with 16 GB of RAM, and a 750 GB Hard Drive,
for $250.
We have a store here called Re-PC that takes in used systems, tests
them and puts them up for sale.
So I can buy a used system for $250, and I think the Pro edition of
JAWS is over $1200, maybe someone here can correct this figure.
When the Screen Reader costs four or almost five times as much as
the computer it will run upon, guess I have a problem with that.
And I know JAWS is a Company that is to make a profit for the
owners, and making a healthy profit is something I have no problem
with a Company doing. But there is the Greed factor that tends to
raise its uglyhead, and that is when a Company will charge what they
believe the Market will bare. And with most program sales getting
paid for by our Government, the same government that will pay $600
for a Toilet Seat, why not charge Uncle SAM $1200 for a screen
Reader program? After all, Uncle SAM is good for it, even though few
people who are Blind can afford it, with most living on minimum wage
jobs, or some level of Social Security.
JAWS as a program, does many things right, and even better than
Window Eyes, in some cases.
I just never liked their method of doing business, or how they
interacted with their customers.
I stayed with GW Micro largely because they were a great group of
people to work and deal with when you needed to do so. From the
days of DOS to just before the purchasing of GW Micro by A I Squared
I felt their customer service and program support was very very
good. And there were times when the guys could not fix what ever my
issue was at the time.
But, they didn't just ignore my situation, or mock me for having a
problem.
I almost always found Window Eyes to be a very reliable program, and
so when I did have those times when my system would freeze or lock
up, I was prone to think it was Internet Exploder, or some other
program, including Windows Itself to be the culprit before I
considered
the
Screen Reader. That is the very high level of reliability I came to
expect from GW Micro, because that is what they produced for years.
Today, I do not have the same degree of Faith in those who run GW
Micro.
And I do not know if this is only because some of the old staff are
now gone, and those replacing them are not quite as good, or if what
I sense is the hand of the Parent Company influencing how those who
still work at GW Micro do their jobs. And now that A I Squared has
been swallowed by the Parent Company of JAWS, there is even a
greater distance theTop
decision makers have from the every day user of Window Eyes. So it
takes longer and longer to fix problems, or to make alterations to
Window Eyes etc.
Personally, I need a powerful Screen Reader. I use NVDA on
occasion, but it is not powerful enough to do everything I need from
a Screen Reader. There may come a Day when I must buy my own copy
of JAWS. I won't like it, but if they are the only Game in town, then
what choice
do I have? I will reluctantly make my purchase.
Grumpy Dave
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