No NVDA is not better then Jaws. -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 11:33 PM To: Bryan Peterson; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Chris Skarstad Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!
Can you honestly say NVDA is better than Jaws? While I don't believe anyone who says yes, I am also genuinely asking, because I have never used either, but I am also convinced that those who would prefer NVDA over Jaws (financial issues notwithstanding) are cutting off their noses to spite their faces (silly cliche alert). But why does it have to be NEDA vs Jaws? Does your copy of Window-eyes suddenly not work? Why are some of you here so anxious to get rid of your Window-eyes and replace it with another screen reader? I went for years, using WE without this list, and hardly leaning on customer service. My point is, even if WE is discontinued, it does not mean you cannot get a few years of use. Maybe in two or three years, NVDA or Narrator will significantly improve, or Jaws will go down in price (perish the thought). On 5/8/2017 6:39 PM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: > I'm afraid you're most likely right. NVDA is by no means my favorite > screen reader but I've had to use it with MSWord since getting Windows > 10 so I may as well get used to using it for other things. I > absolutely despise JAWS and so I refuse to go back to it, so that means NVDA. > > -----Original Message----- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 4:30 PM > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com > Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! > > I suspect certain people at VFO feel the exact same way > about Window-eyes. > > Unfortunately, Window-eyes has always been kind of seen as the > underdog, whereas JAWS is the more popular option. The most popular > doesn't always mean better, but when you're dealing with money, that's what > happens. So unfortunately, it's looking more and more like JAWS > will win. I hope I am wrong. > > > > > On 5/8/2017 6:20 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: >> Yes, I know this. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn....@lists.window-eyes.com] On >> Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk >> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 6:06 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; Vaughan >> Dodd <vaughan.dodd...@msd.govt.nz> >> Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! >> >> Magic's death is coming and it's deserved. That software is a joke. >> Vfo selling we sma's means nothing. Of course they'll take your money. >> You're not gonna get what you paid for but it's your money. Most >> likely sma holders will get discounted jfw offered. I've never seen >> so many people determined to bury they heads in the sand. We's time >> is up y'all. You can use we until your pc turns to dust but the >> reality is that there won't be any future improvements. As new >> windows stuff comes out, we will become unusable. >> >> >> "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never >> promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" >> Walls Of Jericho >> >> Reeva >> >> On May 8, 2017 3:22 PM, "Vaughan Dodd via Talk" >> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >> wrote: >> >> Yes: but have they developed Magic? >> >> Vaughan. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt.nz@lists. >> window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2017 7:50 a.m. >> To: aist...@ameritech.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! >> >> Since obtaining ZoomText, they haven't scrapped Magic. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Adaptive Information Systems Inc. via Talk >> To: 'Peter Duran' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 3:14 PM >> Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! >> >> >> Hi Peter, >> >> Why not two screen readers from VFO. >> >> Many other companies in the real world have more than one brand of >> products >> in their offerings, why not Window-eyes which is far better than >> the other >> brand VFO sells. >> >> Also if Window-eyes is dead like so many speculate, VFO had no >> issues in >> selling me a Window-eyes SMA a month ago for $199.00 for the next >> two major >> upgrades! >> >> Narrator has a long way to go to be a viable screen reader and do >> we want to >> be relying on Narrator for Windows, like those poor folks who have >> MAC and >> appple products having only one choice, Voice over! >> >> NVDA is coming along, but it has a way to go to be equal to >> Window-eyes. >> >> I am successfully using Window-eyes 9.1 with XP Pro. >> YOU are probably laughing, but MY company did over $500,000.00 >> using XP pro, >> Window-eyes 9.1, AVG 2 year protection software, Firefox for my >> browser, >> Office 2003 with the ms converter patch to access office 2007 and >> up files, >> and good old outlook express and outlook as email clients with >> little or no >> issues! >> >> I also have over 6 computers with windows 7 pro with the latest >> Window-eyes >> 9.54 with little issues. >> >> I wil go to Dolphin screen reader before I am stuck with no >> Window-eyes and >> have NVDA as a backup screen reader. >> >> Who knows, maybe if the alternative facts are true about the end of >> Window-eyes, maybe some other adaptive company wil take it over >> and keep it >> alive, Like HumanWare. >> >> So I wil expect a refund from VFO if Window-eyes does not come out >> with any >> major upgrades and use my refund to purchase Dolphin screen reader >> software >> instead. >> >> Regards, >> Roger Behm >> >> >> >> >> Adaptive Information Systems Inc. >> We Make Technology Accessible to the vision Impaired and Reading >> Disabled >> >> Roger A. Behm, President >> 1611 Clover Lane >> Janesville WI 53545-1388 >> Fax: 608-758-7898 >> Voice: 608-758-0933 >> Email: aist...@ameritech.net >> Web Page: www.adaptiveinformation.org >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+aistech=ameritech.net@lists.window- >> eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Peter Duran via Talk >> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 12:58 PM >> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Subject: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! >> >> It always amazes me when smart folks (like on this list) prefer a >> fanticy >> instead of reality. There is absolutely no reason for Window-Eyes to >> continue and compete with JFW. Why would they do that? >> >> There are 3 options to check out: Narrator on Windows 10, NVDA, and >> VoiceOver. 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