I’m looking at this post, and I agree with people here. The authorizations and ways to manage machines do not benefit the customer, but benefit VFO. I used window-eyes for office, and it was an amazing experience. I’m actually taking an NVDA 30 day chalange. Can I use NVDA to do the tasks I usually do with JAWS? And Guys, try NVDA with edge! Thanks, Darrell
Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Steve Nutt via Talk<mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 10:06 AM To: 'Rod Hutton'<mailto:rod_hut...@hotmail.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'<mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: jaws saying Hi, Trouble with NVDA, is there are some really basic features missing. For example, you can't turn off blank lines. Or stop them from saying blank as you arrow down. You can't turn off number processing, so everything speaks in words, not digits. Heck, you can't even label keys to say certain things. I know it's free and all that, but considering it's developed by two blind guys, there are some really basic bits missing here. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: 21 June 2017 12:17 To: Sky Mundell <s...@shaw.ca>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: jaws saying Hi Sky, It will be known as one of the tragedies of the adaptive technology world that such an elegant program as Window-Eyes ceased development while an inferior one persisted. I am coming to realize that Jaws, though given to me for free, will not be the one I invest my time and money in. The only consideration which influences me to pay for upgrades is the fact that it is still uner development. Then again, so are Narrator and NVDA. I'm leaning towards NVDA, considering the fact that I must learn to write apps. Why would I bother forcing myself to work wit Jaws when it is such an inferior product? I'm learning, day by day, where the truth lies. Take care, Rod -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: June 21, 2017 2:02 AM To: 'Charles Adkins' <cadkins6...@gmail.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: jaws saying Hello Charles. I totally agree with you 100%. JAWS was always complicated to change settings right from the beginning. Window-Eyes, as you said, made it easier to do just that, change settings, etc, etc, etc. There are people where I live who have never even heard of or tried Window-Eyes and many of them have used JAWS from the start so those people really missed out on an opportunity to use Window-Eyes. -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Adkins via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 1:42 AM To: Chris G; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: jaws saying Sory to bother you, but am I to understand you must do this for every key you don't want to have it identify itself? Good god, this is way to complicated than it needs to be. Is it possible that theese "people" may implement some of the simplification we had? we made it easy to switch from Jaws to we and went out of their way to assist, infact bent over backwards to accomidate and listen to their customers and all everyone seemed to do is complain. I hope those folks are enjoying the croe they are now feasting on. I for one am very dissatisfied with Jaws, the attitude of a few vfo people I've talked to, and really ticked that vfo is making me pay more to access how ever many machines I own. I am not a whiner. Its just my tough luck that I must pay dearly to have access to equiptment that my friends have for free. I didn't mind paying for we because of the great tech support, the reasonable fees and once it was paid for I could put it on as many boxes I owned. Sory for ranting, thanks for reading. What makes all this interesting is Microsoft if they wished could make all this stuff accessible just like Apple if they really wanted to!!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 20, 2017, at 2:57 AM, Chris G via Talk > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > Hi, > Actually, in a weird way, you can. > > Press insert-6 to open settings center. > > Press shift-control-d to load default. > > In the search box type label > Arrow down to manage key labels dot dot dot and press space. > In the list press S until you get to shift. > > Press alt-c to change the label. > > Clear the word shift from the label and okay it. > Make sure you save your settings. > Now the word shift won't speak when doing things like shift-space. > Do the same for control and windows. > > > > Chris Grabowski > Mystic Access > Where the magic is in learning. > https://www.MysticAccess.com > Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. 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