App mall was Re: updated all of my 35 apps

[Brenda via Talk]

The app mall is an excellent idea if there is someone talented and 
motivated enough to set it up.

Back in the day GW encouraged people to make their apps and websites 
accessible to screen reader users.  An app mall would be a good place 
for them to get info about how to go about it since they can no longer 
contact GW.  Apple has always encouraged app developers to make their 
apps accessible, so even links to the appropriate Apple webpage would 
also be a good idea.

I am clueless about jaws scripts and do use a few W-e apps and maybe 
someday will work on learning NVDA. Having jaws and NVDA scripts along 
with Window-eyes apps in the same place would be very handy for end 
users too.

As for the server, I think it was moved when it disappeared for a while 
during June +-.  Doug said something to the effect that as long as we 
kept topics relevant VFO would probably keep this server running.  But 
it appears Doug is gone and there is no one to look out for W-e user 
interests at VFO.

Not sure if Aaron Smith is still at VFO - he may be our only hope.  Or 
perhaps a long-shot would be pleading our case with Eric Damery (sp).

as a Window-eyes user, I find this list very helpful as I occasionally 
try to use jaws.  I just can't seem to stick with jaws because I think 
in Window-eyes.  At least on my win7 machine things should work fine for 
a while.

I'm keeping emails so if this list does disappear suddenly I will at 
least be able to contact some folks. If something happens all of a 
sudden, maybe we could all meet on the Blind Tech list or the jaws list 
(not sure what the contact info is) or another list someone mentions in 
response to my email.

Brenda




On 7/21/2017 3:05 PM, David via Talk wrote:
Unfortunately, seems like this is yet another way they try to push the
final point of WE as quickly as possible. Next thing is, they will turn
down the lists, my guess is. Perhaps the only reason why they still keep
the lists running, and App Central up, is that people actually make use
of them.


If now, they will not allow updates to be posted, that would mean noone
would use the App Central, so it is all good to hit the road for the
trash-bin. And, the day too few people are active on the list, down
which road does that take them? :)


Or, are they just awaiting the next failure of the server, then all the
sudden just determining that no more service will be done on the
machine, and we are left in the blue. The biggest trouble I find, is
that VFO simply do not care to inform anyone. They sit there till things
have reached a point, then just pull the plug. And if they even can pull
the plug unnoticed, that is their fun. Or, why have we seen no
announcement of the decision not to update apps, anything before. Too
sad, as that will make it very hard for developers to do what they
actually could, to make the screen reader stay up-to-date with the
newest technologies out there.


Someone setting up a server, might be a good idea. And first it has to
be done from scratch, why not open a service that would offer users a
cross-platform service. That is, it could hold not only an app store,
but a whole app mall. What I am suggesting is, go to the new app mall,
and here open the link for WinEyes, if that is your screen reader. You
will have the chance to pick and choose from WE apps. Or, if you are a
Jaws user, go to ap mall, open the Jaws link, and choose apps from the
list. Same with NVDA.


Sure, no apps are going to show up in all the sections, but if you
compare it with a real mall, you don't get milk in the sportsware store
either, do you. The big benefit of a combined service, would be that
people had ONE place to go, no matter which screen reader they used. It
might even encourage app developers, when they see, and read about, the
different apps for other screen readers. That way, maybe some developers
would be able to come up with more cross-platform like solutions. Of
course, it even could have a subsection for IPhone apps, or those for
Android, that are specialldesigned for visually impaired. Or, at least,
it could hold some reviews of such apps. Further, if there could be a
place for developers to go, and pick up articles and tutorials for how
to build apps under different environments, this could be yet another
way of encouraging more new apps and features to see the market, under
any of the screen readers covered.


Thing is, I wonder how long we have to get things going. As the end-date
of the Jaws transmission offer draws near, I have a tiny feeling we
might not see the list servers upp running, all that much longer. OK,
they might be using external servers, but I don't know if there is a
subscription for them to keep renewed, in such a case, likely it won't
be kept alive.


If anyone here thinks I am trying to be all negative, let me appologize.
My one and only point was to accept the facts, sad as they are, and
suggest that something else could be done to at least get the best out
of the existing situation.


On 7/21/2017 7:50 PM, Jeff Weiss via Talk wrote:
I would certainly be interested in such a thing if somebody could set
it up.
I am thinking of a Window-eyes app page which is privately run. It
could be an app repository, or it might include more things, like a
new Window-eyes list, etc.
Jeff Weiss


-----Original Message----- From: John Farley
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 11:18 AM
To: 'Jeff Weiss' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: updated all of my 35 apps

Dear Jeff,

Some of us do intend to use Window-Eyes as long as it is viable.

Would it be possible to place your updated apps on a public folder
somewhere where we could still access them?



Regards, John

Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076




-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet....@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Jeff Weiss via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 5:08 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Fw: updated all of my 35 apps

I just wrote to wesupp...@aisquared.com about updating all of my 35
apps. From the response I just received, no more updates to app
central will be allowed.
Even while the web site is active, this seems to be just an
unnecessary termination of services which all of the current
Window-Eyes users are using.
I already posted all of the updates a week ago, but aparently no more
updates will be approved.
Jeff Weiss



From: Bryan Carver
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 10:55 AM
To: 'Jeff Weiss' ; wesupp...@aisquared.com
Subject: RE: updated all of my 35 apps

Hi Jeff,

I am not exactly sure what you are asking, but we will unfortunately
not be posting any further updates for apps.



Best Regards,

Bryan Carver JAWS & MAGic Certified

VFO� | Director Technical Support

11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716

T 800-444-4443 Ext 1026

bcar...@vfogroup.com

www.vfogroup.com

How am I doing?  Let

Ruth Lutes, VP of Customer Success and Quality know!





From: Jeff Weiss [mailto:jeff-we...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 11:50 AM
To: wesupp...@aisquared.com
Subject: Re: updated all of my 35 apps



I am writing to see if there is a problem with updating my Window-Eyes
apps on App Central.  It�s been several days, and I have not heard
anything�nor have I seen the updated apps come out.  I updated all of
the 35 apps below so that any error messages will come to my home
address since I am now retired. Please allow these updates to be
posted, or let me know if there is some problem.

Thanks,

Jeff Weiss

jeff-we...@sbcglobal.net









From: Jeff Weiss

Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 9:42 PM

To: wesupp...@aisquared.com

Subject: updated all of my 35 apps



I just realized that I had my app error messages coming to work.

Since I am now retired, I updated all of the error messages to come to
my home email address.

The list of apps and their newly changed versions are as follows:



AppsActive

version 2.3



AssertiveChristian

Version 1.1



BrailleQuiz

Version 1.7



BrowseModeStatus

version 1.3



Celebrate

Version 1.1



Christmas

version 1.3



DailyBlessings

version 2.0



DailyProverbs

version 1.3



Daily Psalms

version 1.1



EasterBlessing

version 1.1



ErrorList

version 1.7



FreeSpace

version 1.8



GivingThanks

version 1.1



GodsValentine

version 1.4



Happiness

Version 1.1



HushNow

version 1.4



LunarLander

version 1.4



MissionImpossible

version 1.5



MusicMenu

Version 1.6



OutlookSaveAllAttachments

version 1.3



PlayBack

version 1.6



PrayerForTheDay

version 1.4



PrimeNumbers

version 1.2



PromisesOfGod

version 1.4



RefreshSets

version 1.4



RomanNumerals

version 1.4



ScriptComments

version 1.1



Spelling Practice

Version 1.1



SpellingTest

version 1.7



StatesGame

version 1.5



TextToClip

version 1.8



TwelveGifts

version 1.4



WEHotkeys

version 1.5



WEPMInfo

version 1.5



WordScramble

version 1.7



Thanks,

Jeff Weiss

jeff-we...@sbcglobal.net
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