Jaws is a very good screen reader and it's better than NVDA unfortunately one of the two products had to go. VFO made a proposal to AI Squared to merge they didn't have to do that they chose to so being bitter to the makers of Jaws really serves nothing. -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:11 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Jim Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts
Hi THERE! While I agree that Jaws could do more especially now that they have acquired Window-Eyes I haven't had a real issue with Jaws. I can read from the current line to the end of a document simply by pressing the 'insert+the down arrow key. I wonder what programs you are actually having issues with using Jaws? Yes, I use W.E. for many years and was sad to see it go, but I haven't really found any major issues with Jaws either. Wonder if you might give some specifics as to where your issues have been? I use Thunderbird, Office 2007 notepad, Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome and several other programs regularly and I really don't seem to have any real problems with. Of course, I kept Window-Eyes on my computer a long with Narrator and NVDA so if I have issues with one screen reader I can fall back onto another that will more than likely work. As I have already said, I probably liked Window-Eye the best of all of them, but since Window-Eyes appears to be gone for the most part, I will simply have to make do with whatever I can use and the best of the remaining screen readers is still Jaws at least that is my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinion<SMILE!>. I will continue to use Window-Eyes when I need to, at least until the windows updates render it unusable. Have A good 1! de <KF8LT><Jim>.s On 10-Oct-17 15:00, Charles Adkins via Talk wrote: > it doesn’t seem like they affect products for the disabled does it? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 10, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Tony C via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >> wrote: >> >> No, but maybe Brainwashed. I quit using Jawws in 2004 because WE worked >> better with stuff I needed. Now Jaws still doesn't work well with a lot of >> very common programs. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Nick Sarames via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:42 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Cc: Nick Sarames >> Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts >> >> While I believe what you say, why are there so many Jaws users, even >> some here, who swear by Jaws? They can't all be ignorant, can they? >> What I am guessing is happening is, each screen reader has its issues >> and some websites work better on WE, and other websites work better >> on Jaws. Of course, that is a separate issue from other issues >> involving the overall stability of each reader. >> >>> On 10/10/2017 8:33 AM, Chuck Adkins via Talk wrote: >>> Well, I've been using Jaws for a while now and I must confess the >>> Window-eyes was the much better product both in speed, browsing, >>> usability, layout, and so much more. Like on the Ohio Lottery >>> Website, when reading the pick 5 Jaws will not scroll down >>> continuously down the page like NVDA, Narrator, and Window-eyes do. >>> I also find Window-eyes synthesizer support was much better. I am >>> not whining, I am just bemoaning the fact that a company got by with >>> trashing a product completely, borrowing or using nothing from the >>> product they trashed and acting like Window-eyes never existed, not >>> to mention charging so much for the product. Don't give me that >>> similar stuff, because I've found webpages where Jaws just doesn't >>> work and NVDA and Narrator do. >>> >>> So why won't I just shut up? I will, just wanted to point out in my >>> view what I've realized, and hopefully NVDA, Narrator and others >>> will be able to say Thank You to VFO for pushing us to a day when a >>> 2 thousand dollar screen reader is no longer need. >>> >>> Thanks for reading, I'm now shutting up. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> . >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tch828%40mediacombb.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> http://www.avg.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cadkins6739%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wohlggie%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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