You are very welcome!
I totally agree with you about Chrome. Definitely my favorite!
Have a great one, and ask any questions.
David Moore
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From: Mike Rogers via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:14 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Mike Rogers
Subject: Re: google chrome

Thanks for the tutorial.  I prefer Chrome over I.E. and Firefox is out of the 
equation.  This is a great tutorial.

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On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 19:41:49 -0500
David Moore via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hey Bob and all!
> I will paste my text tutorial on the Google Chrome browser right below this 
> message. You can read it here right in the email.
> I take you through everything, and all of the settings.
> Here is the tutorial right below!
> Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser
> By David Moore
> This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.
> I will also use JAWS 18, JAWS 2018, and NVDA 2017.4 for this tutorial, 
> because they all work the same in Chrome.
> Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.
> I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.
> There should be a shortcut on your desktop.
> 
> Section One:
> Launching Chrome:
> One way to Launch Chrome, is to press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape and type 
> Chrome in the search edit field, and press enter when you hear JAWS say 
> Chrome.
> However, since you have already downloaded Chrome, You will have a shortcut 
> icon on your desktop.
> So next, find the shortcut for Chrome on your desktop, and press enter to 
> open Chrome.
> The short cut will actually say Google Chrome, so press G to find the Google 
> Chrome icon on your desktop.
> The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the 
> window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get 
> undesirable results.
> 
> Section Two:
> Bringing up a web site.
> Press CTRL+L or Alt+D
> and type the following:
> www.freedomscientific.com
> The Freedom Scientific web site comes up very quickly.
> All navigation commands like: H for heading, E for edit field, C for combo 
> box, and so on all work just the same in Chrome.
> 
> Section Three:
> The Virticle Chrome menu:
> I will press Alt+F.
> The Chrome menu is open.
> This is a very large virticle menu that you just keep pressing up and down 
> arrow through.
> I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.
> New Tab, CTRL+T.
> You can press that command right from the web site you are on.
> New Window, CTRL+N
> You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming here.
> New incognito Window.
> History sub menu.
> I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!
> History, CTRL+H
> So, there is a key command for reading your history.
> You can read a few sites you were on right here.
> I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.
> Downloads, CTRL+J
> There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with 
> Chrome.
> Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.
> I will press right arrow, to open this.
> I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D
> That command will bookmark the page you are reading.
> Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B
> That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to see. 
> I do not want that.
> Here is the important one.
> manage bookmarks
> The command is, CTRL+Shift+O
> In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you 
> have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can 
> download, to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.
> On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and a 
> page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in 
> Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to 
> your computer, so you can back them up.
> That is all for manage bookmarks.
> Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.
> press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE, 
> and Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their 
> corresponding folders.
> Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.
> Very important!
> Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices 
> I mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks. If this 
> happens, I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these choices.
> Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, have key 
> commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub menu at all. You 
> only need to come here most of the time, to arrow through your saved 
> bookmarks, and enter on the desired one.
> To save a web site as a bookmark,
> Just press CTRL+D and press enter, and your bookmark is saved.
> I will now press left arrow, to close the Bookmarks sub menu!
> I will continue to down arrow through this virticle Chrome menu that we 
> entered by just pressing alt.
> The next few are very self explanatory.
> The next one I will mension, is the more tools submenu.
> I will press right arrow on this.
> I hear Save Page as, and the command, CTRL+S.
> Next, Save to desktop.
> This allows you to save the favorite of the page right to your desktop. This 
> is how you do this in Chrome, instead of doing this in the file menu in IE.
> It is hidden under this more tools submenu.
> Clear Browsing data, and there is the key command, CTRL+Shift+Delete key.
> Extentions, In here, you can add extentions, delete extentions and so on.
> These are the same as add ons, in IE.
> I will press left arrow, to close the More Tools sub menu, and we are back to 
> the virticle Chrome menu.
> The last two that I will mention, are settings, and the help sub menu.
> If you press the left arrow on the help sub menu, you can open the help 
> system, just like in other programs, so that is all I will say about help.
> Now, we will press enter on settings, and a web like page will open where the 
> virtual cursor will turn on with JAWS, and NVDA will be in Brows mode.
> 
> Section Four:
> Adjusting Settings and Advanced settings:
> Now that this web page is open, I will just down arrow down the page and we 
> will deal with each setting.
> Important:
> I have already signed into Chrome.
> So now, arrow down until you hear sign into Chrome and press enter.
> You just enter your email address and password, I think it has to be the same 
> email address and password that you used to set up your Google account. 
> I am not sure about this.
> You do not need to sign into Chrome, if you do, you can sync all of your 
> activity between all devices that you have Chrome on. That is the only 
> advantage of signing in.
> I will continue with what I hear after you have signed in.
> If you do not sign in, press H until you hear Appearance.
> Each group of settings is a heading that you can get to by pressing H. This 
> makes it very easy, because you just press H until you hear the group of 
> settings you want to work with.
> Now, because I have signed in, this is what I hear before getting to 
> appearance.
> The first thing you hear:
> Settings.
> That is the very top of the web page.
> Down arrow, and you hear:
> Main Menu Button.
> That will just take you back to the virticle menu we were in.
> If you down arrow again, you will just hear blank.
> Down arrow, again, and you hear:
> Settings again, but now, this is a heading. You can get here just by pressing 
> H at the top of the page.
> If you down arrow, you hear:
> Search Settings.
> This is where you can type in a setting that you want to change.
> Down arrow again, and there is the edit field where you type in the setting 
> you want to work with.
> Down arrow again, and you hear another heading saying people.
> Down arrow again, and I hear David Clickable.
> This is because I have already signed into Chrome.
> Down arrow again, and I hear my Gmail email address.
> Again, this is because I have already signed into Chrome to sync my settings 
> and all of that.
> Down arrow again, and I hear:
> Edit person.
> This is where I could change my name.
> Down arrow again, and I hear:
> Sign Out.
> This is because I have already signed in to Chrome.
> Down arrow again, and I hear:
> Sync.
> Down arrow again, and I hear:
> On, Sync everything.
> This is a combo box, where you can choose what to sinc; I chose everything in 
> this combo box.
> Again, all of this is because I have signed into Chrome already.
> Down arrow again, and you hear:
> Sync button.
> Down arrow again, and you hear:
> Manage other people clickable.
> Don't worry about the clickables. There is a clickable for many things, but 
> then there is the button you enter on right after that.
>  Down arrow again, and you hear:
> Manage other people button.
> This is what you would press enter on to set up another user.
> Down arrow again, and you hear:
> Import bookmarks and settings Clickable:
> Down arrow again, and you actually hear
> Import bookmarks and settings button.
> Here, you press enter and import all of your bookmarks and settings from 
> other Browsers like IE.
> This is another way of doing this, because remember,
> We had a choice of manage bookmarks in the book marks sub menu in the 
> virticle menu.
> There is more than one place to do things in Chrome.
> Now, we have a series of headings, that you can just press H for heading, to 
> get to.
> Now, we have gotten to the appearance heading. Down arrow and you hear:
> themes, which I did nothing with.
> Next, you can open the Chrome web store. You can get hundreds of extentions, 
> and more.
> Then, you hear Themes button.
> Do nothing with this.
> Next, you hear:
> Show home clickable.
> Just skip that.
> There are many buttons that say clickable, and then there is a button that 
> you actually press enter on to work with it.
> Just work with the buttons, and skip over these vclickables.
> Down arrow, and you have an edit box where you can put in your home page you 
> want to get to by pressing Alt+Home.
> Next, there is the home button toggle.
> Press the spacebar to turn this on or off. If it is on, you can have the home 
> button show at the top of the Chrome Window.
> I have it checked.
> Now, there are two radio buttons, and I chose the one to enter with a custom 
> web address.
> Search Heading:
> We are at another heading, where you can set your search Engine.
> There is a combo box below, and I set it to Chrome, because I like to have my 
> searches from the address bar done with Crome instead of Bing.
> Next heading:
> Default Browser.
> Here, you can choose weather you want Chrome to be your default browser or 
> not.
> Just leave this alone if you do not want Chrome to be your default browser.
> Next Important heading:
> On Start up.
> Here is where you put in your URL that you want to show as soon as you start 
> Chrome.
> There are three radio buttons to pick from, but I chose to open with a 
> specific page or pages, which is the third radio button.
> Under this, you can type in the URL of the web site that you want to open 
> when you start Chrome.
> Under this, there is a link where you can add more pages you want to show 
> when Chrome starts up.
> Now, we are up to the search engin heading.
> This is a heading.
> There are headings on this settings page.
> I chose to use Google search engin in the address bar. This is a combo box.
> The next heading, is on start up.
> Finally, here is where you set up your home page.
> There are three radio buttons here.
> I chose the third one, to open a selected page or selected pages.
> Next, I was able to enter:
> www.Google.Com.
> That is my home page that will open each time I start Chrome.
> Next important group of settings, the advanced settings.
> Now, you have to press enter on the advanced settings button before more 
> headings of settings will show.
> The Advanced settings are collapsed, so you have to press enter to show more 
> headings of settings.
> Now that these advanced settings are open, we get to the next heading of 
> settings.
> There is much more we can customize under the advanced settings.
> Privacy and security heading:
> Down arrow from here, and you hear:
> Use a web service to resolve navigation errors.
> You have a clickable, and a toggle.
> Press spacebar to toggle this on or off.
> Again, ignore the clickables.
> Now you have:
> Use a prodiction service to enable you in searches.
> I left this unchecked.
> Next, you have a setting to speed up the loading of web pages:
> I checked this with spacebar.
> The next three settings I just left alone.
> I checked the one that says:
> Use a web service to help with spelling.
> I leave manage certificates alone.
> Next, you have content settings, but this is not a new heading.
> We are still working with the same heading.
> The only thing of interest here, is the clear history button.
> This was available in the virtical menu, so don't worry about this.
> Now, we get to the next heading of settings.
> Passwords and forms:
> Under this heading, just make sure that you check to be able to have Chrome 
> save passwords.
> Languages Heading:
> I did nothing with this.
> Downloads heading:
> This is where you choose where you want your downloads to be saved on your 
> computer.
> Printing heading:
> I did nothing with this.
> Accessibility heading:
> I did nothing with this.
> Now, we have the System heading:
> Down arrow, and you hear:
> Continue running background apps, when Google Chrome is Closed.
> I have this unchecked.
> Next,
> Use hard ware excelloration when Available.
> I have this checked.
> Next, you hear:
> Open proxy settings button.
> I left this alone.
> Last Heading LOL!
> Reset.
> Here, you can reset all settings back to their origional.
> We are done with Settings.
> Now, just press CTRL+F4 to get back to the Freedom Scientific Web site.
> This settings web page, opens in another tab.
> That is it for settings.
> Notice, we made a lot of changes under the advanced settings. You cannot see 
> these, unless you press enter to expand these.
> Now, press the Alt key again. Up arrow once to get to the end of the menu 
> where we were with the settings.
> You see exit, up arrow and you see the help sub menu, right under the 
> settings choice.
> I press right arrow on this help sub menu, and you can enter on the help 
> center to get a lot of help using Chrome.
> To open a web site, just press CTRL+L or Alt+D and type the URL.
> Chrome for me, is so much quicker with web sites that involve streamming TV 
> and Watching movies, and so on.
> For me, Chrome opens large news sites very quickly compared to IE.
> Lastly, All JAWS and NVDA navigation key commands work in Chrome. For 
> example, you can press F7 to open a list of links with JAWS, and the elements 
> list with NVDA. All of that is the exact same.
> This is the end of the tutorial.
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Bob Hicks via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:46 AM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Cc: Bob Hicks
> Subject: RE: google chrome
> 
> Hi David.  I know I saved your tutorial about Goggle Chrome, but I can't
> find it.  Would you please post it again.  thanks
> 
> Have a great day!
> 
> Bob Hicks
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 5:09 PM
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> Cc: David Moore <jesusloves1...@gmail.com>
> Subject: RE: google chrome
> 
> Hi Don!
> In Chrome, I enter on the file to be downloaded.
> When it asks me what I want to do with the file, I press CTRL+J.
> Now, Tab two or three times, and you will hear downloads. Press the down
> arrow to get to the file that you are currently downloading. Now, press tab
> to Yes. Then, the file will download after you press enter on yes. Now, you
> can shift tab bback to open folder, and Chrome will open the folder on your
> computer where the file is that you just downloaded.
> That usually works for me. Sometimes, after you press CTRL+J, you have to
> tab around a bit until you hear current downloads, and then down arrow to
> the file you want to download.
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Don Smith via Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 4:32 PM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Cc: Don Smith
> Subject: google chrome
> 
> Hi:
> 
> I have switched from fire fox and having downloading a file or folder from
> send space
> 
> When I find the file and it says download audible clickm then I do control j
> as suggested, no download
> 
> I have tried the context key and was successful once when I clicked on save
> as, but, I need the proper way if anybody can help.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Don
> 
>  
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