That doesn't make the whole screen reader as good as Window-Eyes, it just means you can successfully browse the web.
Now try to create a Powerpoint presentation, or edit a spreadsheet. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: Talk <talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com> On Behalf Of George Savory via Talk Sent: 24 August 2018 17:02 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: George Savory <gsav...@gmail.com>; Amanda Lee <amandainparadise...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Considering VoiceOver My experience with VoiceOver on the iPhone is just as good as with Win-Eyes. I am able to switch from one App to another. I am able to use all the navigation aids on a web page such as headings, lists, radio buttons. I am able to navigate in a web page or a text document by character, word or by lines. I am able to select text and copy it to the clipBoard just as in Windows. I am not using a keyboard on my iPhone, just the settings using the rotor. On 8/24/18, Amanda Lee via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > I agree with Steve. I have an IPhone 8 which I use for a number of > reasons. > I use it with gestures and with a Bluetooth keyboard. If I had to > rely only upon an IPhone for all of my information needs, I would > consider myself as being rather unproductive as every bit of access is > considerably less productive. Yes you can navigate to the Apps rather > quickly but if you need to switch from one App that you are working in > to others or if you want to be able to listen to more than one App, it > doesn't always provide the same interaction as Windows does. Using a > keyboard is awkward as unless you are interacting in a text input > area, the need to hold down multiple keys to navigate one field at a > time is awkward at best! > > As Steve says, the Screen Reader functionality in VoiceOver just does > not compare to that of Window-Eyes and JAWS or NVDA. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > <talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com> On > Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 4:15 AM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > Cc: Steve Nutt <st...@comproom.co.uk> > Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver > > Hi, > > I tell you what, VoiceOver is like Narrator as compared with > Window-Eyes and JAWS. It is not very configurable, unless you know > Apple scripting. > > I'd say it's nowhere near as mature as JAWS or Window-Eyes was. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk <talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com> > On Behalf Of CJ&AA MAY via Talk > Sent: 24 August 2018 09:12 > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > Cc: CJ&AA MAY <chrisalis...@gmail.com> > Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver > > I did consider going down this route but I am basically lazy and it > would mean learning a new operating system. I am so familiar with the > Microsoft operating system and Windows that in the end I bit the > bullet and went over to Jaws. > Do I still miss Window-eyes? Yes, but migrating to Jaws hasn't been as > challenging as I feared and it helped being so familiar with the > Windows operating system. > > Alison > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk <talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com> > On Behalf Of George Savory via Talk > Sent: 23 August 2018 18:57 > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > Cc: George Savory <gsav...@gmail.com> > Subject: Considering VoiceOver > > Listers, > Been using Win-Eyes since Win-Eyes 3X. As Win-Eyes will not be > updated, I am strongly considering going to VoiceOver on Apple. Using > VoiceOver on my iPhone with Safari works perfectly. I don't know if > Jaws will ever work well with websites that use calenders; besides, I > won't have to be upgrading a screen reader everytime there is an > upgrade _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/chrisali > smay%4 > 0gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40 > compro > om.co.uk. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandain > paradi > se777%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gsavory%40gmai l.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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