Hi Steve, You have a point, for those tasks of editing a spread sheet or a PowerPoint presentation I would still have to work with Windows. I still love the support of Win-Eyes on spread sheets.
On 8/24/18, Steve Nutt via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > That doesn't make the whole screen reader as good as Window-Eyes, it just > means you can successfully browse the web. > > Now try to create a Powerpoint presentation, or edit a spreadsheet. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk <talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com> On > Behalf Of George Savory via Talk > Sent: 24 August 2018 17:02 > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > Cc: George Savory <gsav...@gmail.com>; Amanda Lee > <amandainparadise...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Considering VoiceOver > > My experience with VoiceOver on the iPhone is just as good as with > Win-Eyes. > I am able to switch from one App to another. I am able to use all the > navigation aids on a web page such as headings, lists, radio buttons. I am > able to navigate in a web page or a text document by character, word or by > lines. I am able to select text and copy it to the clipBoard just as in > Windows. I am not using a keyboard on my iPhone, just the settings using > the > rotor. > > On 8/24/18, Amanda Lee via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: >> I agree with Steve. I have an IPhone 8 which I use for a number of >> reasons. >> I use it with gestures and with a Bluetooth keyboard. If I had to >> rely only upon an IPhone for all of my information needs, I would >> consider myself as being rather unproductive as every bit of access is >> considerably less productive. Yes you can navigate to the Apps rather >> quickly but if you need to switch from one App that you are working in >> to others or if you want to be able to listen to more than one App, it >> doesn't always provide the same interaction as Windows does. Using a >> keyboard is awkward as unless you are interacting in a text input >> area, the need to hold down multiple keys to navigate one field at a >> time is awkward at best! >> >> As Steve says, the Screen Reader functionality in VoiceOver just does >> not compare to that of Window-Eyes and JAWS or NVDA. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> <talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com> On >> Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 4:15 AM >> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >> Cc: Steve Nutt <st...@comproom.co.uk> >> Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver >> >> Hi, >> >> I tell you what, VoiceOver is like Narrator as compared with >> Window-Eyes and JAWS. It is not very configurable, unless you know >> Apple scripting. >> >> I'd say it's nowhere near as mature as JAWS or Window-Eyes was. >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk <talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com> >> On Behalf Of CJ&AA MAY via Talk >> Sent: 24 August 2018 09:12 >> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >> Cc: CJ&AA MAY <chrisalis...@gmail.com> >> Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver >> >> I did consider going down this route but I am basically lazy and it >> would mean learning a new operating system. I am so familiar with the >> Microsoft operating system and Windows that in the end I bit the >> bullet and went over to Jaws. >> Do I still miss Window-eyes? Yes, but migrating to Jaws hasn't been as >> challenging as I feared and it helped being so familiar with the >> Windows operating system. >> >> Alison >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk <talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com> >> On Behalf Of George Savory via Talk >> Sent: 23 August 2018 18:57 >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >> Cc: George Savory <gsav...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Considering VoiceOver >> >> Listers, >> Been using Win-Eyes since Win-Eyes 3X. As Win-Eyes will not be >> updated, I am strongly considering going to VoiceOver on Apple. Using >> VoiceOver on my iPhone with Safari works perfectly. 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