I'm using Windows-8 and have exactly the same issues. I can't read my saved drafts either. As you would expect, I can read sent messages. Woah is I.
On 12/21/2018 8:16 AM, David via Talk wrote: > Nice try, but in Thunderbird, even when writing this reply, it does give > no result. That is, Ctrl-Insert-C, tells me: > > No Cursor Found. > > > I can write the message, and the speech will echo my typing. If i > Backspace, I can hear one character at a time, as they are deleted. But > any use of the Arrows, or things like Ctrl-Home, Ctrl-End - yields no > speech at all. That is even if the cursor actually moves. Have tried the > Ctrl-S, for saving the message - like someone suggested. No help there > either. > > > Strange why some reports they have no trouble with the newest > Thunderbird. Unless it has to do with the fact that I am still running > under Win7, and likely will be for yet a while. > > > > David > > On 12/21/2018 1:34 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: >> Another thing you can try is Control+Insert+C. This makes Window-Eyes >> search for the cursor. It will usually say either "uses system cursor" >> or "no cursor found." >> Regards, >> Tom >> >> >> On 12/21/2018 4:19 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >>> Thanks Bob, yeah, similar issues - fortunately my Thunderbird contains >>> spell check (I thinkit's Thunderbird which provides the spell check, but >>> who knows). What stinks is, if I leave the composing window, I won't >>> know where I am in the e-mail. I have to assume the cursor is where I >>> left it. >>> >>> On 12/20/2018 9:38 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: >>>> Nick, >>>> >>>> I am using windows 10, win-eyes 9.5.4., and WLM. The same thing has >>>> been >>>> happening to me. It didn't used to do this. It started happening all of >>>> a sudden for no apparent reason. >>>> >>>> If I bring up WLM, I can write an email and see what I am writing. >>>> after >>>> that, while writing the 2nd email, I can't see or hear what I am >>>> writing. >>>> >>>> I have to close WLM and thenn open it. Then I can see what I am >>>> writing. >>>> But again, only the first email. Then have to close and re-open WLM >>>> again. >>>> >>>> -Bob >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Nick Sarames via Talk >>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:44 PM >>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >>>> Cc: Nick Sarames >>>> Subject: Re: Mail Client >>>> >>>> If anyone has a solution to the arrow problem I have, you are >>>> welcome to >>>> e-mail me privately: >>>> >>>> nicksara...@msn.com >>>> >>>> When I am composing a message, I am unable to read what I have just >>>> written. >>>> >>>> On 12/20/2018 9:01 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: >>>>> I'm not sure just how much I've ultimately got to add here, but I must >>>>> at least say this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My version of Thunderbird updated on me without either permission or >>>>> encouragement. Naturally I did a double-take and hoped and prayed that >>>>> my ability to edit would continue, and with my good luck or divine >>>>> intervention, it continued to function as it should. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> One thing that really annoys me is that every time I go to open up the >>>>> program, it takes an eternity to load and otherwise settle down. I was >>>>> told that I should remove all add ons, but the only one I have is the >>>>> spellchecker, and removing that didn't help either, but I wasn't going >>>>> to go without that one anyway. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I said all that only to say that I haven't encountered the editing >>>>> problem at all, up to this point anyway - knock on wood. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/20/2018 6:15 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote: >>>>>> On this Windows 7 machine I am still using Windows Live Mail 2012. >>>>>> I'm >>>>>> not sure where you can get it. You would need the SET files and apps >>>>>> that GW developed for it. It has its quirks, but works well for me. >>>>>> You may want to work with Thunderbird and NVDA, but I have no >>>>>> experience with that combination. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD >>>>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com >>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: David via Talk >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 3:02 AM >>>>>> To: WE English Mailinglist >>>>>> Cc: David >>>>>> Subject: Mail Client >>>>>> >>>>>> Listers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Could need a bit of info here. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As you know, the latest updates to Thunderbird, have broken the >>>>>> accessibility when writing new messages, as well as replying to any >>>>>> message received. Seeing how they slowly broke down any >>>>>> cooperation with >>>>>> WE in Firefox, I do take the guess, this is just the beginning of the >>>>>> end for our ability to use Thunderbird along with WinEyes. I do >>>>>> cling to >>>>>> my WinEyes, among other things, due to the fact that it is the only >>>>>> screen reader that to a certain extent works with some websites I am >>>>>> relying on. Like for instance our local grocery store, where neither >>>>>> NVDA or Jaws will let me do my shopping properly. Only good old >>>>>> WinEyes. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, I want to have a backup for my mailing activity, the day when >>>>>> Mozilla finally pulls the plug for WinEyes and Thunderbird. What >>>>>> alternatives do we have, now adays? I know some of you have mentioned >>>>>> Becky. Is that the only one? Outlook, OK, but that demands me running >>>>>> Office - and does it work with all versions of office? Should I >>>>>> decide >>>>>> to go for things like Becky, will there be a steep learning curve? >>>>>> And >>>>>> will there be any particular settings or twixings to be done in my >>>>>> screen reader? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Any feedback you might have, I am open ears. If you have some idea >>>>>> as to >>>>>> the functionality with any of the other screen readers, along with a >>>>>> given mail client, I want to know your experiences. Would be great, >>>>>> could I find a mail client, which worked with whichever screen >>>>>> reader i >>>>>> happen to have up running at any time. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, and two more questions: >>>>>> >>>>>> Where to get the client you might suggest? And is it for free, Annual >>>>>> payment, or Lifetime priced? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks alot, all of you. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>>> >>>>> For membership options, visit >>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For subscription options, visit >>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>>> List archives can be found at >>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>> >>>> For membership options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> For subscription options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> List archives can be found at >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> >>>> --- >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>> >>>> For membership options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> For subscription options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> List archives can be found at >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> . >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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