Bernie,
Just wondering if you have any issues when starting Thunderbird. Here,
it takes an eternity to go through its paces and finally settle down. I
have been advised to remove all add-ons, but I only have one, and that
is spellcheck, which I had removed at one time, but no difference. I
couldn't do email if I didn't have spellchecker <smile>.
Maybe if I could remove all of the other features like chat, newsgroups
etc that might help, but I really can't figure out how to do that, or
even if it is possible. But there are sure lots of things I'm sure I
could do without, can't remember them all. Only need T-Bird to read,
write and send mail, nothing else.
Do you have any ideas? If so, I'm all ears <smile>.
Thanks,
Larry
On 12/26/2018 10:43 AM, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote:
Hi Larry, Just this morning with reluctance, I decided to update Tbird
to version 60. With the update installed, it is running fine on windows
1809 and the last version of WE. I have no problems either reading or
composing messages. I have been reading messages on this list and have
been trying to figure out what might be causing problems for Nick and
others. I believe the problem might be coming from the WE setfiles. I
will write to Nick to see if we can figure things out.
On 12/21/2018 8:20 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
It may be Nick that since I am still on 1803 that the problems just
haven't had an opportunity to present themselves. Are you on 1809? I
think I have those version numbers correct. Anyway no feature update
yet, most likely because I need to update my HD video card to a newer
model, but I'm not certain about that either.
Sure hope your situation improves, and mine stays the same <smile>.
On 12/21/2018 6:57 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
I always assumed it was a WE issue only, but maybe Windows is a
component of the problem?
On 12/21/2018 2:03 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
I sure wish I knew just what I'm doing right. I'm just afraid I'll
wake
up with the same issue any day now.
Using Windows 10 and the final version of WE.
On 12/21/2018 12:33 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
I'm using Windows-8 and have exactly the same issues. I can't read my
saved drafts either. As you would expect, I can read sent messages.
Woah
is I.
On 12/21/2018 8:16 AM, David via Talk wrote:
Nice try, but in Thunderbird, even when writing this reply, it
does give
no result. That is, Ctrl-Insert-C, tells me:
No Cursor Found.
I can write the message, and the speech will echo my typing. If i
Backspace, I can hear one character at a time, as they are
deleted. But
any use of the Arrows, or things like Ctrl-Home, Ctrl-End - yields no
speech at all. That is even if the cursor actually moves. Have
tried the
Ctrl-S, for saving the message - like someone suggested. No help
there
either.
Strange why some reports they have no trouble with the newest
Thunderbird. Unless it has to do with the fact that I am still
running
under Win7, and likely will be for yet a while.
David
On 12/21/2018 1:34 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Another thing you can try is Control+Insert+C. This makes
Window-Eyes
search for the cursor. It will usually say either "uses system
cursor"
or "no cursor found."
Regards,
Tom
On 12/21/2018 4:19 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
Thanks Bob, yeah, similar issues - fortunately my Thunderbird
contains
spell check (I thinkit's Thunderbird which provides the spell
check, but
who knows). What stinks is, if I leave the composing window, I
won't
know where I am in the e-mail. I have to assume the cursor is
where I
left it.
On 12/20/2018 9:38 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:
Nick,
I am using windows 10, win-eyes 9.5.4., and WLM. The same thing
has
been
happening to me. It didn't used to do this. It started happening
all of
a sudden for no apparent reason.
If I bring up WLM, I can write an email and see what I am writing.
after
that, while writing the 2nd email, I can't see or hear what I am
writing.
I have to close WLM and thenn open it. Then I can see what I am
writing.
But again, only the first email. Then have to close and re-open
WLM
again.
-Bob
-----Original Message----- From: Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:44 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Nick Sarames
Subject: Re: Mail Client
If anyone has a solution to the arrow problem I have, you are
welcome to
e-mail me privately:
nicksara...@msn.com
When I am composing a message, I am unable to read what I have
just
written.
On 12/20/2018 9:01 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
I'm not sure just how much I've ultimately got to add here, but I
must
at least say this.
My version of Thunderbird updated on me without either
permission or
encouragement. Naturally I did a double-take and hoped and prayed
that
my ability to edit would continue, and with my good luck or
divine
intervention, it continued to function as it should.
One thing that really annoys me is that every time I go to open
up the
program, it takes an eternity to load and otherwise settle down.
I was
told that I should remove all add ons, but the only one I have
is the
spellchecker, and removing that didn't help either, but I wasn't
going
to go without that one anyway.
I said all that only to say that I haven't encountered the
editing
problem at all, up to this point anyway - knock on wood.
On 12/20/2018 6:15 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
On this Windows 7 machine I am still using Windows Live Mail
2012.
I'm
not sure where you can get it. You would need the SET files and
apps
that GW developed for it. It has its quirks, but works well
for me.
You may want to work with Thunderbird and NVDA, but I have no
experience with that combination.
Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-----Original Message----- From: David via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 3:02 AM
To: WE English Mailinglist
Cc: David
Subject: Mail Client
Listers,
Could need a bit of info here.
As you know, the latest updates to Thunderbird, have broken the
accessibility when writing new messages, as well as replying
to any
message received. Seeing how they slowly broke down any
cooperation with
WE in Firefox, I do take the guess, this is just the beginning
of the
end for our ability to use Thunderbird along with WinEyes. I do
cling to
my WinEyes, among other things, due to the fact that it is
the only
screen reader that to a certain extent works with some websites
I am
relying on. Like for instance our local grocery store, where
neither
NVDA or Jaws will let me do my shopping properly. Only good old
WinEyes.
Anyway, I want to have a backup for my mailing activity, the day
when
Mozilla finally pulls the plug for WinEyes and Thunderbird. What
alternatives do we have, now adays? I know some of you have
mentioned
Becky. Is that the only one? Outlook, OK, but that demands me
running
Office - and does it work with all versions of office? Should I
decide
to go for things like Becky, will there be a steep learning
curve?
And
will there be any particular settings or twixings to be done
in my
screen reader?
Any feedback you might have, I am open ears. If you have some
idea
as to
the functionality with any of the other screen readers, along
with a
given mail client, I want to know your experiences. Would be
great,
could I find a mail client, which worked with whichever screen
reader i
happen to have up running at any time.
Oh, and two more questions:
Where to get the client you might suggest? And is it for free,
Annual
payment, or Lifetime priced?
Thanks alot, all of you.
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