Larry, My TB enhancement app is running and seems not to cause any problems.
On 12/26/2018 4:37 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: > Bernie, > > > I just thought about disabling the TB enhancement script, or as they > now are called "apps," to see if that would make a difference. I am > going to shut down T-Bird for a while and see if that wont do the > trick, and if I can do as well without it ... Will shout it from the > rooftop if it does. > > > > > On 12/26/2018 3:07 PM, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote: >> Hi Larry, I also just checked the version of TB and like you I am >> running the 32-bit version. So, for now, don't think that is your >> problem. >> >> On 12/26/2018 4:02 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: >>> Well Bernie, what it does here is say inbox just fine when first >>> pressing the tab key, and if I'm lucky, it will let me tab down to the >>> contents, but soon after going there, things start to happen, (God >>> only knows what), and I have to wait from anywhere from three to five >>> minutes for things to settle down, then things are fine. >>> >>> >>> I'm not sure if I have the 32 bit version or 64, or if that would even >>> make a difference, but it really is a pain to have to keep it open >>> throughout the day, rather than going through all of that all over >>> again. >>> >>> >>> OK, that was easy. Just checked the about dialog box, and I'm >>> apparently running the 32 bit version. Maybe I'll have to look at >>> upgrading to see if that would make a difference. Hopefully wont make >>> things even worse. >>> >>> >>> Oh well. >>> >>> >>> Thanks much, >>> >>> >>> Larry >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/26/2018 1:17 PM, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Larry, I do not have any ad ons so I don't have any suggestion >>>> regarding whether it would make a difference if they are removed or >>>> not. One thing I have noticed when starting Thunder bird,is that it >>>> often doesn't speak when the program is loaded but it is really there. >>>> One way I can check this is after starting it, I wait for about three >>>> seconds and then press the tab key and it usualy responds by saying >>>> "in >>>> box. Sorry I can't help more. Bernie >>>> >>>> On 12/26/2018 1:36 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: >>>>> Bernie, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Just wondering if you have any issues when starting Thunderbird. >>>>> Here, >>>>> it takes an eternity to go through its paces and finally settle down. >>>>> I have been advised to remove all add-ons, but I only have one, and >>>>> that is spellcheck, which I had removed at one time, but no >>>>> difference. I couldn't do email if I didn't have spellchecker >>>>> <smile>. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Maybe if I could remove all of the other features like chat, >>>>> newsgroups etc that might help, but I really can't figure out how to >>>>> do that, or even if it is possible. But there are sure lots of things >>>>> I'm sure I could do without, can't remember them all. Only need >>>>> T-Bird >>>>> to read, write and send mail, nothing else. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Do you have any ideas? If so, I'm all ears <smile>. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Larry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/26/2018 10:43 AM, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote: >>>>>> Hi Larry, Just this morning with reluctance, I decided to update >>>>>> Tbird >>>>>> to version 60. With the update installed, it is running fine on >>>>>> windows >>>>>> 1809 and the last version of WE. I have no problems either >>>>>> reading or >>>>>> composing messages. I have been reading messages on this list and >>>>>> have >>>>>> been trying to figure out what might be causing problems for Nick >>>>>> and >>>>>> others. I believe the problem might be coming from the WE >>>>>> setfiles. I >>>>>> will write to Nick to see if we can figure things out. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/21/2018 8:20 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: >>>>>>> It may be Nick that since I am still on 1803 that the problems just >>>>>>> haven't had an opportunity to present themselves. Are you on >>>>>>> 1809? I >>>>>>> think I have those version numbers correct. Anyway no feature >>>>>>> update >>>>>>> yet, most likely because I need to update my HD video card to a >>>>>>> newer >>>>>>> model, but I'm not certain about that either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sure hope your situation improves, and mine stays the same <smile>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/21/2018 6:57 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >>>>>>>> I always assumed it was a WE issue only, but maybe Windows is a >>>>>>>> component of the problem? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/21/2018 2:03 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: >>>>>>>>> I sure wish I knew just what I'm doing right. I'm just afraid >>>>>>>>> I'll >>>>>>>>> wake >>>>>>>>> up with the same issue any day now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Using Windows 10 and the final version of WE. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/21/2018 12:33 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I'm using Windows-8 and have exactly the same issues. I can't >>>>>>>>>> read my >>>>>>>>>> saved drafts either. As you would expect, I can read sent >>>>>>>>>> messages. >>>>>>>>>> Woah >>>>>>>>>> is I. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/21/2018 8:16 AM, David via Talk wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Nice try, but in Thunderbird, even when writing this reply, it >>>>>>>>>>> does give >>>>>>>>>>> no result. That is, Ctrl-Insert-C, tells me: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No Cursor Found. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I can write the message, and the speech will echo my typing. >>>>>>>>>>> If i >>>>>>>>>>> Backspace, I can hear one character at a time, as they are >>>>>>>>>>> deleted. But >>>>>>>>>>> any use of the Arrows, or things like Ctrl-Home, Ctrl-End - >>>>>>>>>>> yields no >>>>>>>>>>> speech at all. That is even if the cursor actually moves. Have >>>>>>>>>>> tried the >>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl-S, for saving the message - like someone suggested. No >>>>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>> either. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Strange why some reports they have no trouble with the newest >>>>>>>>>>> Thunderbird. Unless it has to do with the fact that I am still >>>>>>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>>> under Win7, and likely will be for yet a while. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 12/21/2018 1:34 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Another thing you can try is Control+Insert+C. This makes >>>>>>>>>>>> Window-Eyes >>>>>>>>>>>> search for the cursor. It will usually say either "uses system >>>>>>>>>>>> cursor" >>>>>>>>>>>> or "no cursor found." >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/21/2018 4:19 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Bob, yeah, similar issues - fortunately my Thunderbird >>>>>>>>>>>>> contains >>>>>>>>>>>>> spell check (I thinkit's Thunderbird which provides the spell >>>>>>>>>>>>> check, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> who knows). What stinks is, if I leave the composing >>>>>>>>>>>>> window, I >>>>>>>>>>>>> won't >>>>>>>>>>>>> know where I am in the e-mail. I have to assume the cursor is >>>>>>>>>>>>> where I >>>>>>>>>>>>> left it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/2018 9:38 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using windows 10, win-eyes 9.5.4., and WLM. The same >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening to me. It didn't used to do this. It started >>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a sudden for no apparent reason. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I bring up WLM, I can write an email and see what I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>> writing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> after >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, while writing the 2nd email, I can't see or hear what >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>> writing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to close WLM and thenn open it. Then I can see what >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>> writing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But again, only the first email. Then have to close and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> re-open >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WLM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bob >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Nick Sarames via Talk >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:44 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Nick Sarames >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mail Client >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If anyone has a solution to the arrow problem I have, you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> welcome to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-mail me privately: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nicksara...@msn.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I am composing a message, I am unable to read what I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>>> written. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/2018 9:01 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure just how much I've ultimately got to add here, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> must >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at least say this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My version of Thunderbird updated on me without either >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permission or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encouragement. Naturally I did a double-take and hoped and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prayed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my ability to edit would continue, and with my good luck or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intervention, it continued to function as it should. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing that really annoys me is that every time I go to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program, it takes an eternity to load and otherwise settle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told that I should remove all add ons, but the only one I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spellchecker, and removing that didn't help either, but I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to go without that one anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I said all that only to say that I haven't encountered the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> editing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem at all, up to this point anyway - knock on wood. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/2018 6:15 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On this Windows 7 machine I am still using Windows Live >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not sure where you can get it. You would need the SET >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that GW developed for it. It has its quirks, but works >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You may want to work with Thunderbird and NVDA, but I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience with that combination. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: David via Talk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 3:02 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: WE English Mailinglist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mail Client >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Listers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could need a bit of info here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you know, the latest updates to Thunderbird, have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessibility when writing new messages, as well as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message received. Seeing how they slowly broke down any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cooperation with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WE in Firefox, I do take the guess, this is just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beginning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end for our ability to use Thunderbird along with WinEyes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cling to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my WinEyes, among other things, due to the fact that it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen reader that to a certain extent works with some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> websites >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relying on. Like for instance our local grocery store, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neither >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NVDA or Jaws will let me do my shopping properly. Only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WinEyes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I want to have a backup for my mailing activity, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the day >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mozilla finally pulls the plug for WinEyes and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thunderbird. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alternatives do we have, now adays? I know some of you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Becky. Is that the only one? Outlook, OK, but that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demands me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office - and does it work with all versions of office? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to go for things like Becky, will there be a steep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> curve? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will there be any particular settings or twixings to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen reader? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback you might have, I am open ears. If you have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the functionality with any of the other screen readers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given mail client, I want to know your experiences. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could I find a mail client, which worked with whichever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reader i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen to have up running at any time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, and two more questions: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where to get the client you might suggest? 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