Hi Carol,
No problem. I like tracking down these annoyances and squashing them.
It's strange how I rarely see it and it's a real problem for you. Oh the
mysteries of computers. Aren't they wonderful.
Regards,
Tom
On 4/1/2019 10:45 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Hi Tom,
That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this crazy
anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a while.
Closing WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as long as a
restart. Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the most part. The
biggest problem is when I have more than two or three windows open at a
time. Then, none of the windows speak when alt-tabbing and more likely
than not, they do not speak when I land on them. Anyway, I will be
through my moving soon enough and won't need to worry about it again,
grin. Well, maybe not for a month or so. Thanks for trying to figure
it out.
Carol
On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi Carol,
That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I
said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after
ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing.
I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I
can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what
"enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the
Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the system
tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in the
Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because when
a window is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and is then
minimized to the tray.
All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the
Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of the
foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I can
write a script to stomp on it. Smile.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Regards,
Tom
On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Hi Tom,
Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk
again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and
inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the
foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing
showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here
to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not
say anything. I could navigate through the track I was playing with
my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was. The other
interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I
was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed.
After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced
on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same
time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least, the
foreground staging window will go away for a while if I restart WE.
Carol
On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi carol,
I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem
with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just
hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't
come back.
I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I
connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what
I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come
up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and
it's gone.
I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is
that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with
MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just
shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the
proper hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a
window.
All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you do
things. Hopefully you'll find one that works.
Good luck,
Tom
On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Hi Tom,
Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go to the folder I wanted
and then alt-tab to the drive I wanted to paste the files I wanted
to move. The problem, although the drive was already open, was that
WE would read absolutely nothing except the title bar read command
would say "foreground staging." Windows-d would open the desktop
back up, but the folders I already had open would not speak. A
reboot did solve the problem for now. I canned the Microsoft
Disability desk and the person there did not know what I was
talking about. He did, although, quote help me out by changing the
way my files are now listed. You know how the item number is
normally spoken at the end of a file name in a list, he fixed it so
the number would be read first. Also, I have always kept my files
listed in detail view. Now, there are three columns and if I want
to read down through a list, I have to use the right arrow and
there are no longer details for the files. Oh well, I guess one
gets what they pay for, grin.
Carol
On 3/29/2019 11:25 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi Carol,
Going to the desktop is how I take care of the foreground staging
screen too. And I usually don't see it again. Although it does pop
up once in a while. And it certainly hasn't caused any problems. I
only see it when I'm on the desktop anyway, after boot, waking, or
having had gone to the desktop before transferring files to a
thumb drive.
All I can think of is to use Windows+D instead of Windows+M if
that's what you use. It's all I do.
Hth,
Tom
On 3/29/2019 9:32 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Does anyone know how to get rid of the foreground staging screen
in Windows 10? It basically locks up my system in the manner
that I can not read anything else except the title bar unless I
go to the desktop. I can then open a folder, but if I do anything
in that folder, the blank foreground staging screen comes up
again. Thanks for any help.
Carol
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