Damn!
I just took a look at Bookshare's listings for annoyances, and found no
book regarding annoyances associated with Windows 10, only up to Windows
7. I guess there just weren't enough annoyances in Windows 10 to fill
enough pages <smile>.
On 4/2/2019 6:02 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi Carol,
No problem. I like tracking down these annoyances and squashing them.
It's strange how I rarely see it and it's a real problem for you. Oh
the mysteries of computers. Aren't they wonderful.
Regards,
Tom
On 4/1/2019 10:45 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Hi Tom,
That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this crazy
anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a while.
Closing WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as long as a
restart. Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the most part.
The biggest problem is when I have more than two or three windows
open at a time. Then, none of the windows speak when alt-tabbing and
more likely than not, they do not speak when I land on them. Anyway,
I will be through my moving soon enough and won't need to worry about
it again, grin. Well, maybe not for a month or so. Thanks for
trying to figure it out.
Carol
On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi Carol,
That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I
said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after
ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing.
I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I
can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what
"enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the
Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the
system tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in
the Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because
when a window is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and
is then minimized to the tray.
All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the
Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of the
foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I
can write a script to stomp on it. Smile.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Regards,
Tom
On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Hi Tom,
Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk
again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive
and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the
foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was
nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting
items here to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it
would not say anything. I could navigate through the track I was
playing with my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was.
The other interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it.
Although I was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I
landed. After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said
"enhanced on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be
in the same time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at
least, the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I
restart WE.
Carol
On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi carol,
I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real
problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get
it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's
gone and doesn't come back.
I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I
connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste
what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it
might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just
Windows+D and it's gone.
I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything
is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with
MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just
shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the
proper hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a
window.
All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you do
things. Hopefully you'll find one that works.
Good luck,
Tom
On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Hi Tom,
Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go to the folder I
wanted and then alt-tab to the drive I wanted to paste the files
I wanted to move. The problem, although the drive was already
open, was that WE would read absolutely nothing except the title
bar read command would say "foreground staging." Windows-d would
open the desktop back up, but the folders I already had open
would not speak. A reboot did solve the problem for now. I
canned the Microsoft Disability desk and the person there did not
know what I was talking about. He did, although, quote help me
out by changing the way my files are now listed. You know how
the item number is normally spoken at the end of a file name in a
list, he fixed it so the number would be read first. Also, I
have always kept my files listed in detail view. Now, there are
three columns and if I want to read down through a list, I have
to use the right arrow and there are no longer details for the
files. Oh well, I guess one gets what they pay for, grin.
Carol
On 3/29/2019 11:25 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi Carol,
Going to the desktop is how I take care of the foreground
staging screen too. And I usually don't see it again. Although
it does pop up once in a while. And it certainly hasn't caused
any problems. I only see it when I'm on the desktop anyway,
after boot, waking, or having had gone to the desktop before
transferring files to a thumb drive.
All I can think of is to use Windows+D instead of Windows+M if
that's what you use. It's all I do.
Hth,
Tom
On 3/29/2019 9:32 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Does anyone know how to get rid of the foreground staging
screen in Windows 10? It basically locks up my system in the
manner that I can not read anything else except the title bar
unless I go to the desktop. I can then open a folder, but if I
do anything in that folder, the blank foreground staging screen
comes up again. Thanks for any help.
Carol
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