Mark, Great suggestion. We'll also have some OAMers at CP Roberts, including Chris Lippitt and Charlie Schmidt (and maybe some other geohackers). We could set this up as a featured co-hack between the two venues. One question: how do we keep this within the scope of a 2-4 day hack?
Here's one idea for a proof-of-concept application. For the purposes of supporting the Random Hacks and CP Roberts it would be great if we could create an archive for all the UAV imagery we collect at CP Roberts and mosaic it into a workable proto-OAM, which all other applications at the Random Hacks and CP Roberts could call (like Ushahidi, Sahana, GeoChat, etc). Assume the following use case: at CP Roberts, our team simulates a disaster response operation, when UAVs would be launched to remap a known area after a major natural disaster, augmenting available pre-disaster satellite imagery. We would then possess images of the same terrain taken from different birds (UAV and satellite) over a timeline, and we would need to make these images usable for disaster responders to make sense of their environment and to assess damage (simulated). Would this use case enable us to work on the issues that Josh, Paul Yves, Chris, Mikel, Richard, and Schuyler have been raising and keep it within a smallish application that could be completed in a 2-4 day hackfest? Would this use case enable us to reuse existing OAM code, experiment with the architectural questions before us, and benchmark possible alternatives without having to build a full-scale OAM application? We're happy to help facilitate. And the call in the morning might be a great jumpstart. - John --- On Tue, 11/3/09, Marc Pfister <[email protected]> wrote: From: Marc Pfister <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [OAM-talk] The once and future OpenAerialMap To: "John Crowley" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 2:33 PM A conference call the morning of November 12th would work well, since that evening the Random Hacks of Kindness conference starts and it looks like some OAMers and many other geohackers will be attending. OAM is on the list of project definitions for the event. We could hopefully reach a verbal agreement of where to start, and then the attendees could try to generate some prototypes and proof-of-concepts. http://randomhacksofkindness.eventbrite.com/ n Marc Pfister Technology Manager ENPLAN [email protected] (530)221-0440 x108 (530)221-6963 Fax From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Crowley Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 3:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OAM-talk] The once and future OpenAerialMap I am new to the list, but have been following in the background. I organize a set of humanitarian field experiments at Camp Roberts, under the aegis of the Naval Postgraduate School and the National Defense University. Mikel Maron and David Bitner joined us in August, and our conversations there made us realize how critical a shared imagery archive has become to the development of the field of crisis mapping. We realized that the humanitarian community needs a place where civilian and military organizations can share and exchange pre- and post-crisis imagery, as well as subsquent analyses (our holy grail would be to identify visual patterns that are precursors to violence, mass migrations, and mass atrocities, including genocide). Based on those discussions, the Naval Postgraduate School subsequently offered to help catalyze the reanimation of the OAM project. To that end, I would like to introduce NPS professor Don Brutzman. He is willing to offer computing resources to help us bootstrap OAM, including bandwidth, storage, and (if needed) supercomputer processing power. I'll let him fill in the details. He's an open source developer himself (see his work on creating X3D, and he is on the W3C committee for HTML5). He has been using OAM for his team's research and therefore has a longstanding interest in reviving the project. We also would like to offer a conference line to help speed these conversations. Next week, he and I will be at Camp Roberts with several other technologists and geographers. We'll be continuing the work from August, including building an open-source tool to automatically mosaic UAV still imagery. We are willing to host an OAM conference call on Thursday 12 Nov, hopefully at a time that allows our European colleagues to participate (we'll be on PST, so would early morning our time work?). Could we get a rough show of hands about who would like to participate on the call? What agenda items should we be covering? And what is the best way to ensure that the call gets back into this list? (for instance, we could record the call, if everyone agrees, and publish the audio feed, or designate someone to live-blog the call). Taking up Charlie's point about separating conversations about technology from those about governance/organization, should we host two calls? Looking forward to contributing to a great project, - John Crowley
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