On 11/07/2008 09:43, Steve Hill wrote: > The definition of living_street is a bit vague in the wiki. A relevant > bit seems to be: > "Simply tagging them with something like highway=residential, max_speed=7, > motorcar=yes, motorcycle=yes, bicycle=yes" > > Which implies to me that the living_street tag almost never applies in the > UK - The vast majority of our residential roads have a speed limit of > 30mph, with newer ones tending to have a 20mph limit. Just about the only > roads you'll see in the UK with a 5-10mph speed limit are service roads to > amenities such as schools. > > I don't know enough about the road systems in other countries to comment - > from your description, it sounds like maybe you have living streets (very > low speed limit) rather than residential roads (20-30mph speed limits). > As I said, I really don't like the residential tag (although I do use it > in order to be consistent with the rest of the map). For roads with speed > limits over 30mph I don't tag them with highway=residential, even if they > have houses along them.
You are right. Living streets are uncommon in the UK. I believe "Living Street" is a translation of the Dutch "Woonerf" where the concept was invented. The equivalent here, to which the tag would be applied, is known as "Home Zone", and it has a specific sign: http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/tss/general/coll_newroadsignsandmarkingsleaf/dft_roads_022863-16.jpg (which is taken from this page http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/tss/general/newroadsignsandmarkingsleafletb?page=1 ) Like all these things, the details vary from country to country. What makes some European Living Streets so much better than those in the UK is that they place a default responsibility on the motorist for any crash. David _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
