On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:16:34 +1000, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:58 AM, David Paleino<d.pale...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Well, they must IMHO. The wiki explains the ontology of the tags we're > > using, and the wiki is the main regulamentation for tags. Otherwise we go > > wild, and everyone uses what she likes best. > > Yes, but STILL - tags should be self-explanatory. It would make life > easier for everyone (even those that DO read the wiki). People will > make less mistakes if tags are self-explanatory. Self-explanatory tags > are also easier to memorise. I'm not suggesting at all that people > shouldn't read the wiki.
Ok, I misunderstood you, sorry :) > >> E.g. stop=both could be misunderstood to mean "both directions", or "both > >> intersecting ways", etc. > > > > stop=both_sides? Propose something :-) > > I already did: > > stop=at_last_node > stop=at_first_node > stop=at_first_and_last_node > > This is, after all, *exactly* what you're trying to denote. Yes, I don't particularly like the wording but, hey, I can't get everything from life! ;) > > If I understood "East-bound" and "West-bound" correctly, you mean: > > > > http://imagebin.ca/view/bJWJB6.html > > Unfortunately I can't access that image :( See mine: http://imagebin.org/60947 > > So for A, stop=at_last_node. We need to make clear that the green car > doesn't have to stop when it crosses the last node of A. Hence, maybe > something like "The stop sign only applies when the node is approached > from the way that is tagged". Ok, great, that's exactly what I understood from your last mail. Yes, the stop sign only applies (with respect to the value at_{last,first}_node) when it is approached from its own way. In particular, the value at_first_node (in my/Stemby's proposal, "-1"), should be used when the way is oneway=no [1], but for any reason we don't want to change its direction (i.e. "R" in josm) -- the stop applies to the junction which the first node of the way takes part to. Hope this is clearer. Still, like I said, I don't like the particular wording, I bet we can still find something better. Sure your wording is much more self-explainatory than mine. Kindly, David [1] this is obvious -- having stop=at_first_node/stop=-1 in a oneway=yes way would grant a maplint error (I'd put it even in JOSM's "validator" plugin) -- . ''`. Debian maintainer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino : :' : Linuxer #334216 --|-- http://www.hanskalabs.net/ `. `'` GPG: 1392B174 ----|---- http://snipr.com/qa_page `- 2BAB C625 4E66 E7B8 450A C3E1 E6AA 9017 1392 B174
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