On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Matt Amos <zerebub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Anthony <o...@inbox.org> wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Matt Amos <zerebub...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> CC BY-SA imposes requirements *using* copyright law. > > > > No it doesn't. Copyright law imposes requirements. CC-BY-SA provides a > > waiver to some of those requirements. > > a conditional waiver - the conditions of which aren't imposed by copyright > law. > Correct. > >> indeed. this is kind of the point: the US and some other jurisdictions > >> don't yet have a database rights law, so to enforce similar > >> restrictions to CC BY-SA it's necessary to use some other method. > > > > Okay, well, that's my point. I don't want to have those restrictions > > imposed. > > they're intended to be imposed. You may intend them to be imposed. I don't. > CC BY-SA doesn't work, In my opinion it does work. > but the intention of the licensing is clear. did you look at the CC BY-SA > license and say, "hey, these guys want me to share-alike, but i'm in a > jurisdiction where that's unenforceable, so i'll just take the data, > not attribute and give nothing back"? > I looked at the license and I said "Why are they bothering with this crap? It's not like this stuff is copyrightable in the first place. Well, I guess that this stuff is protected by some laws in some jurisdictions, so CC-BY-SA is useful for waiving those rights in those jurisdictions. For me, in a state with sane laws, I don't have to worry about it. What the heck, sure, I'll license my data under CC-BY-SA. Can't hurt." I'll attribute, maybe, if it's not too hard. I'll "give back", usually, because it's easier than merging. But I know I don't have to do these things. > I live in the United States. I can do whatever the heck I want with the > OSM > > database. Now you want me to agree to a contract limiting those rights. > So > > I'll ask again: What's in it for me? > > > nothing directly. but maybe you'd like to respect the intentions of > those other contributors who agreed to a license that they thought > would ensure that you can't do whatever the heck you want without > attributing and sharing-alike? > Most likely I will. But that doesn't mean I'm going to contractually bind myself to doing so. Especially if you're not going to pay for me to have a lawyer read over that contract.
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